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  • Robert F. Kennedy Jr. describes the coalition of sinister forces — intelligence agencies, pharmaceutical companies, social media titans, medical bureaucracies, mainstream media and the military — that are using a health crisis to impose totalitarian control worldwide.
  • Anthony Fauci isn’t acting alone, but he’s become a prominent face of the medical cartel and medical technocracy that is wrapped up in obliterating constitutional rights globally.
  • Big Pharma’s infiltration of regulatory and public health agencies goes back more than 100 years to the creation of the Rockefeller Foundation in 1913, which took control of the U.S. medical school system.
  • Fauci controls a $6.1 billion budget that he distributes to colleges and universities to do drug research for various diseases and another $1.7 billion that comes from the military to do bioweapons research.
  • Fauci’s NIAID conducted barbaric and illegal drug experiments on foster children — at least 85 children died as a result.
  • Waking up to Fauci’s façade is necessary to understand the orchestrated planned use of pandemics to clamp down totalitarian control.

We’re facing the greatest battle of our lifetimes, possibly of all time, according to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in this riveting interview with James Corbett.

I urge you to set aside 60 minutes to watch it in its entirety, as it succinctly sums up the coalition of sinister forces — intelligence agencies, pharmaceutical companies, social media titans, medical bureaucracies, mainstream media and the military — that are using a health crisis to impose totalitarian control worldwide.

You can find all of the details in Kennedy’s bestselling book, “The Real Anthony Fauci,” which contains more than 2,200 footnotes backing up its data. The truth is, Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) — part of the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH) — isn’t acting alone.

But he’s become the prominent face of the medical cartel and medical technocracy that is wrapped up in obliterating constitutional rights globally. And, as an authoritative medical figure and trusted adviser to six presidents, Fauci’s words are treated as gospel, despite the atrocities he’s committed.

Regulatory agencies turned into pharmaceutical companies

Because of financial entanglements between pharmaceutical companies and the agencies that regulate them, public health agencies in the U.S. have been turned into veritable pharmaceutical companies.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), for instance, receives 45% of its annual budget from Big Pharma, Kennedy explains.

The NIH, meanwhile, owns thousands of pharmaceutical patents, and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention spends $4.9 billion a year out of its $12 billion budget buying and distributing vaccines.

“It is the biggest vaccine company in the world,” Kennedy says. The NIH actually owns half the patent for Moderna’s COVID-19 injection, which means that if the shot is approved and/or mandated, it will make billions of dollars as a result.

“Tony Fauci was able to choose, to designate, four of his high-level employees who each get individual patent shares,” Kennedy explained. “They will collect $150,000 a year for life if the Moderna vaccine is approved, which it has been.”

Fauci’s agency, the NIAID, in particular, no longer looks out for public health — and Fauci doesn’t either — his priority is pharmaceutical promotion.

How Rockefeller took control of the medical school system

One of the important parts of Kennedy’s new book is exposing the connection of Fauci to Bill Gates and helping uncover how Gates patterned his strategy after Rockefeller. The information was so compelling that I had my team create the video above to put together the facts in the book into an easy-to-watch video so you can digest the material more easily.

Big Pharma’s infiltration of regulatory and public health agencies goes back more than 100 years to the creation of the Rockefeller Foundation in 1913.

Just two years earlier, John Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Company had been ruled an unreasonable monopoly and split into 34 companies, which became Exxon, Mobil, Chevron, Amoco, Marathon and others.

The breakup only served to increase Rockefeller’s wealth, however, and the foundation he created under his name was deemed “a menace to the future political and economic welfare of the nation.”

The Foundation, in partnership with Andrew Carnegie and educator Abraham Flexner, then set out to centralize U.S. medical schooling, orienting it to the “germ theory” of disease, which states that germs are solely responsible for disease and necessitates the use of pharmaceuticals to target said germs.

With that narrative in hand, Rockefeller financed the campaign to consolidate mainstream medicine, adopt the philosophies of the growing pharmaceutical industry and shutter its competition.

Rockefeller’s crusade caused the closure of more than half of U.S. medical schools, fostered public and press scorn for homeopathy, osteopathy, chiropractic, nutritional, holistic, functional, integrative and natural medicines, and led to the incarceration of many practicing physicians.

The full story, including how the Rockefeller Foundation imbued its philosophy, precepts and ideologies into the League of Nations Health Organization, which turned into the World Health Organization, can be found in “The Real Anthony Fauci.”

Chronic diseases skyrocket under Fauci’s lead

In 1984, when Fauci was appointed director of NIAID, 11.8% of Americans had a chronic disease. Contrast that to today, when 54% are now suffering from chronic illness.

Fauci doesn’t talk about this public health failure — at least not publicly — but as Kennedy noted, it was Fauci’s job to figure out why autism, allergies and so many other diseases have increased, identify the toxins causing them and eliminate them.

“Fauci could have prevented the whole thing,” Kennedy noted, referring to the epidemic of chronic diseases now plaguing Americans, but instead of running a true public health agency he turned it into an incubator for pharmaceutical products.

According to Kennedy, between 2009 and 2016, 240 new drug products were approved by the FDA, and all of them came from Fauci.

“He has a $6.1 billion budget that he distributes to colleges and universities to do drug research for various diseases,” Kennedy said.

“He has another $1.7 billion that comes from the military to do bioweapons research, and that is why he had to do the gain of function … He was locked into that; 68% of his personal salary comes from doing military/bioweapons research that used to be called ‘dual-use.’”

Fauci has long promoted gain-of-function research

Dual-use research is so named because it involves research on select agents and toxins that could either benefit society or destroy it, depending on whether or not it falls into the wrong hands.

Fauci specifically spoke about dual-use research of concern (DURC), which involves 15 potentially deadly pathogens like smallpox and Ebola virus, at a hearing before the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs at the U.S. Senate, held April 26, 2012.

DURC involves seven categories of research experiments, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which includes gain of function (GOF) and which may enhance the harmful consequences of the agent or toxin, among others.

Because GOF and DURC can be used to make pathogens more readily able to infect humans, they pose major biosecurity risks.

After the 2001 anthrax attacks, the CIA began pouring money into bioweapons research. The Pentagon was nervous about conducting such studies because it was prohibited, so cohorts funneled money to Fauci to do it, Kennedy said. Because he called it dual-use “vaccine research,” it was allowed to continue.

Another moratorium was placed on U.S. -funded GOF research in October 2014, after a string of concerning events, including publication of controversial GOF studies and high-profile “incidents” at U.S. biocontainment laboratories, led to more than 300 scientists launching a petition calling for an end to GOF research.

That moratorium was lifted in December 2017, but in the meantime Fauci continued his controversial research by funneling money to the Wuhan lab in China, partnering with Chinese military scientists, and teaching them how to take bat coronaviruses and make them transmissible to human beings.

“Fauci was giving them millions and millions of dollars,” Kennedy said, “but the biggest contributor was the CIA, and the Pentagon through DARPA.” The three were all working in tandem, teaching the Chinese how to weaponize bat viruses.

Fauci experiments killed at least 85 children

Fauci’s sordid past goes back to the AIDS crisis, which is now being used as a template for what’s happening during COVID-19, and the fabrication of past pandemics, including the Zika virus, for the purpose of selling pharmaceuticals and advancing totalitarian control.

One of the most atrocious acts, however, included barbaric and illegal experiments that the NIAID conducted on children, testing pharmaceuticals.

Fauci “got control of foster homes in seven states and turned pharmaceutical companies loose on these children,” Kennedy said.

“The children were tortured. They did not have legal representation, which is illegal. They did not have guardians. You cannot put a child into a clinical trial in this country without a legal guardian.

“And he made sure that those kids did not have guardians. They were literally tortured to death … many of the kids did not have HIV, they were just guinea pigs.

“The children who refused or were noncompliant were sent to Columbia Hospital and had feeding tubes installed in them so the drug companies could administer the drugs even when the kids fought back. At least 85 of these kids died during the experiments.”

A graveyard was found in Hawthorne, New York, with a pit covered by an Astroturf carpet that had hundreds of tiny coffins piled up with the bodies of these children inside, Kennedy said. “After New York, he took that roadshow to Africa and ended up killing many pregnant mothers and getting away with it.”

Using fear to disable critical thinking

Waking up to Fauci’s façade is necessary to understand the orchestrated planned use of pandemics to clamp down totalitarian control. One sign of the ensuing control is the deep involvement of intelligence agencies in the pandemic process, even though they’re not health agencies.

Kennedy explains:

“The intelligence agencies and health agencies have developed these extraordinary techniques for using fear to disable critical thinking. If you look at the whole rationale behind this pandemic, all of these rationales collapse.

“Why are we mandating vaccines that don’t prevent transmission? What is the possible reason? That’s just one of many absurdities of what we’re doing today.

“But people who are subsumed in the orthodoxy, which is the product of orchestrated fear, misinformation and propaganda, need to be woken up.”

He references the now-infamous experiment conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram in 1962, during which he tested the limits of human obedience to authority. The Milgram experiment was conducted following the trial of Nazi Adolf Eichmann, who used the Nuremberg defense, or “befehl ist befehl,” which translates to “an order is an order.”

The Milgram experiment clearly showed that people would act against their own judgment and harm another person to extreme lengths simply because they were told to do so. What does this mean for the future, if people blindly obey and submit to totalitarian control?

Kennedy said:

“I think this is historical jeopardy to humanity that we’ve never seen before. You know, the black plague and WWII are arguably rivals for it.

“But I would argue that this is the worst thing that has ever happened to humanity because the essential ambition of the totalitarian state is to control, not just conduct, but self-expression and thought.

“And for the first time in history, because of the technological revolution, the capacity for totalitarian forces to literally control every aspect of human expression and even human thought is now unprecedented.”

Waking up to the truth

In China, a vast array of facial recognition technology that claims to be able to read guilt on a person from a distance has reportedly already been deployed. “This is precrime,” Kennedy says, like the movie “Minority Report.” In such a technocratic world, however — unlike at any point in history — there’s nowhere to run, and nowhere to hide:

“In Hitler’s time you could run for the border, and there were ways that a certain number of people were going to escape. They were going to regroup and there was opposition from other countries.

“Today, we have this situation where the U.S. military and the CIA are conspiring with the Chinese CDC and military scientists, developing bioweapons together and conspiring to lie to the public … We have U.S. federal officials who are conspiring with Chinese military officials to hide truth from the American public.”

“I would say this is Armageddon,” Kennedy said. “This is the apocalyptical forces of ignorance and greed and totalitarianism. This is the final battle. We need to win this one,” and the first step to doing so is waking up to the truth.

Watch “The Corbett Report” interview:

Read the transcript of the interview:

Mr. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 00:00

So, I would say this is Armageddon, this is the apocalyptical forces of ignorance and greed and totalitarianism and this is the final battle. We need to win this one.

James Corbett 00:19

You are listening to The Corbett Report. Welcome Friends, James Corbett here, corbettreport.com. In the conversation that is being recorded on the 19th of November 2021, here in Japan, and throughout the past couple of years of this generated crisis, I have received, as you might imagine, many, many requests to do some sort of deep-dive or exposé on the face of this generated crisis in the United States, Anthony Fauci.

But, as a Canadian in Japan, I have never felt that I am best situated to do such a deep dive. Luckily, I can do the next best thing — actually, an even better thing — I can bring on someone who has done exactly just such an exposé and has just released that to the public.

I am talking about, of course, thought criminal extraordinary and proud member of the “Disinformation Dozen,” — I say that ironically, of course — Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. of Children’s Health Defense.org, who has just written “The Real Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health.” Mr. Robert F Kennedy Jr, thank you very much for joining us on the program, today.

Kennedy 01:34

Thank you for having me, James. And also, thank you for all your extraordinary work, for keeping the public informed, so that we can actually, maybe, restore some democracy to the world.

Corbett 01:50

Well, I appreciate that. Let’s start by talking about the sort of, the cultural moment that we’re in, in which I note as we’re recording this conversation, it’s the 18th of November there in the United States.

As we are talking, this book, “The Real Anthony Fauci’” is currently the number three bestseller on Amazon right now, which people should not be lining the pockets of Jeff Bezos, obviously, but I think speaks to the fact that obviously, something is happening in the zeitgeist right now where this information, speaking, obviously, specifically about Anthony Fauci.

But in a similar way — I would say to my Who is Bill Gates documentary, using Fauci as a hub from which we can explore many spokes of the crisis that we’re living through right now.

Obviously, people are hungry for this information at the moment, but first, can you just speak to why you decided to write this book specifically about Fauci?

Kennedy 02:48

Well, I think for the same reasons that you’ve been exploring, we’ve seen over the past 20 months a coup d’état against liberal democracy, globally and one of the key players is this kind of medical cartel, medical technocracy, there’s an entire coalition of what I would think we are all starting to see as sinister forces — pharmaceutical companies, the intelligence agencies, the medical bureaucracies, the social media Titans and the mainstream media that are all wrapped up in — and the military, if I didn’t mention them — that are all kind of wrapped up in the obliteration of constitutional rights, globally, and the subversion …

The use of a health crisis to impose totalitarian controls and one of the ways they’ve been able to get rid of it is this kind of avuncular presence who is the face of the technocracy and the face of the demolition, the obliteration of constitutional rights is this avuncular, you know, steady, authoritative medical figure, Anthony Fauci, who is the leading panjandrum of the medical establishment for 50 years.

He’s kind of the J. Edgar Hoover of public health but without J. Edgar Hoover’s bad reputation and he has been the trusted advisor to 6 presidents and is a person who is widely applauded.

And his opinions, as little sense, his medical opinions — as little sense as they make — are treated literally as gospel by the mainstream press, the social media globally and many, unfortunately, people from my political party, from the Democratic Party, who really see him as almost a demi-god.

And because of my peculiar history, because I have spent 40 years litigating on the issue of regulatory capture, I’ve brought over 500 lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies and big corporations, and probably a quarter of the lawsuits that I’ve brought have been against government agencies like the EPA, that are subject to this dynamic of regulatory capture, which is very, very well documented in peer-reviewed publications and the popular press.

But it’s the mechanism by which regulatory agencies become the sock puppets of the industries that they’re supposed to regulate, they become really kind of the subsidiaries of those industries.

And Tony Fauci is kind of the spearhead of an agency that has experienced regulatory capture in a way that is on steroids. And part of the reason is that these unprecedented financial entanglements between the pharmaceutical companies and the agencies that regulate them, that we do not see in the environmental space.

You know, the EPA is a captured agency, it does the bidding of Big Oil, Big Coal, the chemical industry, the big industrial agriculture, and I spent a lot of time suing them, when they did sweetheart deals to issue permits that were illegal but, in the pharmaceutical and the medical sphere, you have these financial links.

For example, FDA receives 45% of its annual budget from pharmaceutical companies. The NIH has thousands of pharmaceutical patents and the CDC spends about $4.9 billion a year out of its $12 billion budget, so, about 40% – close to 40% – buying and then distributing vaccines.

So, it really is the frontman, it is the biggest vaccine company in the world. And the metrics that are used within the agencies to measure whether or not you’re going to get promoted, whether you’re going to get advanced, whether you’re going to get your bonuses and salary raises, almost all of them have to do with how well you promote vaccine uptake.

So, people do not get rewarded in those agencies for finding problems with vaccines, they get rewarded for covering up problems, and then some of the agencies directly profit from vaccine sales.

For example, as I said, NIH owns thousands of medical patents, including half the patent for the Moderna vaccine. So, it stands to make that agency, Tony Fauci’s agency, billions and billions of dollars if they succeed in getting that vaccine approved, and mandated, etc.

And Tony Fauci was able to choose to designate four of his high-level employees, who each get individual patent shares, and they will collect $150,000 a year for life if the Moderna vaccine is approved, which it has been. So, it’s kind of like, like I said, it’s like if EPA got half of its budget from the coal industry or from the oil industry and the amount of money that went into its budget was based upon sales of coal and oil.

It would really contaminate the … it would subsume the regulatory … the mercantile impulses and the commercial impulses would subsume the regulatory functions, and that’s exactly what’s happened. They are no longer regulatory agencies, they’re not public health agencies. They are vaccine and they are pharmaceutical companies.

And Tony Fauci, his agency in particular, no longer does public health and he doesn’t do public health. He does pharmaceutical promotions. He will never talk about — publicly — about the improvements in public health that have occurred since he came into office 50 years ago, and it’s not a good story.

We’ve gone from 6% of the American public having chronic disease when he entered to … by 1986 he became the boss, the big boss in ‘84 and in ‘86 11. 6% or 11.8% of Americans had chronic disease and today 54%, so … and by chronic disease, I mean neurological disease, ADD, ADHD, speech delay, language delay, tics, Tourette’s syndrome, narcolepsy, ASD, autism, allergic diseases like peanut allergies, food allergies, asthma and anaphylaxis, and then the autoimmune diseases like juvenile diabetes and rheumatoid arthritis.

When Tony Fauci took over that agency, nobody had even heard of those diseases, really. You know, one in 10,000 people my age have autism and one in every 34 kids … people my kids’ age has full-blown autism.

And Tony Fauci’s job is to make sure that doesn’t happen, to find the sources of those chronic diseases. Why did food allergies suddenly appear in 1989? Why do we see all these people with Celiac disease and peanut allergies beginning in that year? Why do we see rheumatoid arthritis and juvenile diabetes?

Clearly, there’s an environmental toxin. Genes do not cause epidemics. They may provide the vulnerability, but you need an environmental toxin and his job is to identify the toxin so that we can then eliminate it. But that’s not what he does. And as a result, we’ve seen this dramatic explosion, a decline in public health.

You know, we have the worst infant mortality rate of the top 25 nations. When he came into office, we were the healthiest people. Today we are the unhealthiest people in the industrialized world. We’re 79th, in terms of, you know, the overall public health metrics. We consume three times the pharmaceutical products of any other Western nation, we pay the highest prices, and we are by far the sickest.

And it’s largely, as I show in the book, Tony Fauci’s responsibility. He’s not solely responsible. He, however, could have prevented the whole thing; he could have … his job was to identify those problems and lead the way to eliminating them and he could have done that, and that’s not what he’s doing.

He’s turned that agency into an incubator for pharmaceutical products between 2009 and 2016 some 240 products were approved by FDA — new drugs that all came out of Tony Fauci’s shop. He has a $6.1 billion budget, which he distributes to colleges and universities to do drug research for various diseases.

He has another 1.7 billion that comes from the military that essentially is to do bio-weapons research and that’s why he had to do the gain of function; he was locked into that. Sixty-eight percent of his personal salary comes from doing that military bio-weapons research, which used to be called dual-use. It’s illegal for anybody to do bioweapons development and manufacturing.

But there’s an exception in the 1972 Act for research and development that is for dual-use, in other words, it’s research that could be used, that is useful for developing bio-weapons, but it also is useful for vaccines.

So, if you can say “I’m doing vaccine research,” then you can do bioweapons research, backdoor bioweapons research, and that’s what he did. After the anthrax attacks in 2001, the Pentagon and the CIA began pouring money into bioweapons research.

The Pentagon was nervous about doing it itself, because of the ban, the prohibition on it. So, those cohorts began funneling money to Tony Fauci to do it because he could legitimately say, “Well, I’m not really doing bioweapons research, I’m doing vaccine research.”

Then a bunch of those bugs escaped in 2014, from his lab and from other people’s labs and 300 scientists signed a letter to President Obama asking them to stop Tony Fauci.

And that’s when he began funneling a lot of this money to the Wuhan lab and partnering with Chinese military scientists, and teaching them not only how to take bat Coronavirus and make them transmissible and pathogenic and virulent to human beings, but also, his specialty — with one of his chief scientists, Ralph Baric, in the University of North Carolina, he developed a technique called the “no-see-um” technique for hiding the evidence of the human engineering of those viruses.

And Baric, who was funded by Fauci, then shared that research with Zhengli, Shi, the Chinese scientist known as Bat Lady, who then was able to master the technique and, you know, these people were all publishing on this stuff, and they weren’t embarrassed about it.

The Chinese were very, very open that they were, this was weapons research — they didn’t pretend it was vaccine research, they were like, “this is weapons research, and we are glad we’re able to do it.”

And Fauci was giving them millions and millions of dollars but the biggest contributor was the CIA, which gave about $69 million through USA ID to do that kind of research, and then the Pentagon through DARPA, which gave about $39 million to do that.

And the three of them are all working in tandem, U.S. agencies with smaller amounts coming from Homeland Security, and the other agencies and they were teaching the Chinese how to weaponize bat viruses.

Corbett 16:39

Well, let’s stop for a moment because describing Anthony Fauci as the J. Edgar Hoover of public health is such a perfect description that I’m going to steal it because I think it gets to the heart of what we’re discussing here, which is that this man has somehow or other managed to take over a relative backwater of the Washington bureaucracy, as you point out, in 1984, who was talking about an NIAID? No one. It was a nothing agency. It is now…

Kennedy 17:10

Because infectious disease had basically stopped causing mortalities after the Spanish flu, and the Spanish flu was not a flu. As Tony Fauci, himself, wrote in 2008, he really documented the fact that it was a bacteriological infection. So, there’s no reason to be scared of it anymore because it can be obliterated in two days by antibiotics.

So, really, in this century, you’ve seen the complete decline of infectious disease mortalities and by 1980, the Reagan administration, infectious disease mortalities were such an infinitesimal threat to Americans that the Reagan administration was talking about abolishing NIAID and CDC that year, and in those agencies, they were talking about, “we’ve got to find a pandemic in order to justify our existence,” and I show in the book, again and again, they fabricated pandemics.

They fabricated a flu pandemic in 1976 and then, in 2005, an avian flu pandemic, swine flu in 2009, a complete fabrication and in 2005, one person died in a pandemic, and they spent $40 billion on vaccines and had mandatory vaccine programs, globally, and you know, they do this again, and I show, again and again.

I mean Zika was a phony, Tony Fauci’s phony pandemic. Zika was completely not associated with microcephaly.

And he went to Congress, and said “Zika’s causing kids to be born with small heads,” and he got $2.2 billion for his agency to get a vaccine and — as it turns out — Zika was no threat to anybody and definitely did not cause microcephaly. It was all fabricated.

And he’s done this again and again and again, the same playbook, to use it to clamp down totalitarian controls and to sell pharmaceutical products, he used these fake pandemics.

Now, I’m not saying that COVID is fake because it isn’t, but the response to it has not been a medical response. It’s been a militarized and a monetized response that is very, very much pre-calculated.

Corbett 19:38

Well, let’s get into the specifics of how this type of scare can be manipulated, because that’s something that we need to wrap our minds around to understand what’s happening right now.

And in Chapter four of your book, in fact, several chapters deal with Fauci’s involvement in the AIDS crisis and AZT and that scandal, but in Chapter four of your book, you specifically go through how the AIDS crisis that Fauci was at the helm of there in the 1980s was essentially the template for what was to come during the generated crisis of the past two years.

And you talk about pumping up pandemic fears to lay the groundwork for larger budgets and greater powers, incriminating an elusive pathogen, fanning hysteria by exaggerating disease transmissibility, periodically stoking waning fear levels by warning of mutant super strains and future surges, etc, etc.

There’s a list of about 20 different ways in which the AIDS crisis can be seen as a template for what has happened over the past couple of years. Can you elaborate a bit about that?

Kennedy 20:38

One of the things that he did during the AIDS crisis, he was able to go through a struggle with the National Cancer Institute because the initial signal of AIDS was Kaposi Sarcoma, which is a cancer.

And so, the aid went to the National Cancer Institute, and he was able to use studies that show that maybe it’s a viral infection caused by HIV, to get control of all that new funding, and he went up to billions of dollars and that really made him the boss but what he did, he didn’t know how to develop drugs and the NIAID had no capacity at that time to develop drugs, and the National Cancer Institute did.

It had big labs and it was always developing cancer drugs. His agency didn’t know how, so it really had to rely on a private pharmaceutical company, which is now Glaxo, called Burroughs Welcome.

It had a new drug that appeared to kill HIV, but it killed HIV because it killed everything that it touched. It was a really toxic chemotherapy drug. It was so toxic that it killed all the mice in the chemotherapy experiment.

And the guy who developed it actually threw it on a junk pile and didn’t even patent it because he said, this can never be used. Chemotherapy, well you give it for two weeks and it kills every cell in the DNA in human bodies, but you’re hoping that it kills the tumor first, before it kills the person.

It was Tony Fauci’s idea to give that chemotherapy to people for life, which of course means their life was going to be extremely short, which is exactly what happened. And he had to shorten the experiment, the clinical trial, because within six weeks, it was killing everybody in the clinical trial.

And the way he kept them alive is by pumping the people in the AZT group with daily — in some cases, daily — blood transfusions and not giving the transfusions to the HIV infected people in the placebo group.

Transfusions kept them alive, allowed him to claim this was a miracle drug and he got it approved in record time. It was a rushed, emergency use approval and, at the end, he declares “It’s so effective, that it’s unethical to continue the trials and we’re going to unblind them and give it to all the people in the placebo group,” exactly what he did with vaccines.

Then, by that time, there were community doctors all over America, that were finding repurposed drugs that were really effective against the symptoms of AIDS, the things that actually killed people — the pneumonia — and all these other symptoms that killed people.

And, in order to get his AZT approved for emergencies, he had to kill those drugs. So, he suppressed them, he punished doctors who were … he wouldn’t allow FDA to approve any of them. He wouldn’t allow fast-track approval, my uncle was fighting with him and fighting with him, Ted Kennedy was the chair of the Health Committee, to force him to do fast-track approvals for those drugs that the community, these wonderful community doctors were using.

And what happened is people who had AIDS were quickly recognizing that AZT was killing their friends who got on it and they were desperate to get these other drugs.

So, they had these buyers’ clubs that popped up all over the country and the movie, Dallas Buyers Club was originally written about Tony Fauci as the villain because he was the one that was preventing all these people from getting their hands on these working medications because there was no profit in them for the drug industry.

So, you had these buyers’ clubs where people would go to Mexico and they would go to Europe and to Canada and they’d get these drugs and bring them back and distribute them to people.

So, it’s the same thing he’s doing now with suppressing ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, monoclonal steroids, all of the things that we know are very effective against COVID: the anti-inflammatories, the anticoagulants, the antibiotics that actually work, the vitamin D, the zinc and all those things get suppressed.

So, there’s only one solution. Back then it was AZT for AIDS, today, it’s a vaccine. It’s always a deadly, experimental drug that wipes out the… and he has to abbreviate the clinical trials and declare “It’s a success.” That is just one of the times he’s done that again, and again and again, throughout his long career.

Corbett 26:01

Right. As you say in the book, it’s a well-worn, dog-eared playbook that he’s playing from, precisely because it has worked in the past and it’s continuing to work to this day. As you say, his avuncular attitude, it sort of deflects all the criticism that never seems to really land on him.

But you paint a very vivid picture in this book of a particular instance of how Fauci has wielded his power over his fiefdom to suppress dissent against him and that was the story of Dr. Peter Duesberg. Tell people about how the career of Peter Duesberg was completely derailed by Fauci.

Kennedy 26:34

Well, Duesberg was probably the most brilliant virologist in the world. He’d won more NIH awards than anybody else; he’d won virtually every award that could be won in virology. He was clearly going to win the Nobel Prize for finding an oncogene, which is a cancer-causing gene, and which he discovered, and launched an entire discipline in virology.

Then he, himself, went back and looked at it and he said, this doesn’t make any sense from an evolutionary point of view. And he wrote the paper that exploded his own theory and lost him the Nobel Prize, but he didn’t care about anything except integrity and he was really — he is, he’s still alive — this incredible and highly, highly respected scientist and he did not believe that the deaths that were being attributed to AIDS in the 80s, from 81 to 84, he did not believe that they were being caused by HIV.

He believed that they were, largely, the result of poppers and a whole constellation of drugs; heroin, speed, you know, methedrine, cocaine, that were part of the fast-track, post-Stonewall, gay lifestyle.

Now, what he was saying is accepted science, it’s known that Kaposi sarcoma, which was AIDS, is no longer even listed as a symptom of AIDS. It’s now understood that it is an environmental result and that it’s caused by poppers, which is amyl nitrate, which was a ubiquitous drug that was used in the gay community.

It was sold at every gay bar and at the end of the night, the gay bars would declare last call for alcohol, last call for poppers — it was sold in the bathhouses and the nightclubs and everything else. And all the people, 100% of the people originally diagnosed with AIDS were popper users.

So, Duesberg did this exhaustive research and published a groundbreaking paper and then became a huge critic of Fauci and I show in my book how Fauci was able to use strategically placed monies, he controlled all of this research, you know, $6.1 billion in research grants to get the universities to shut him out, to get him denied all awards, invitations to conferences, to punish his graduate students, so nobody would take his courses, and to destroy his career and he succeeded in doing that.

He really isolated and he made Duesberg, a pariah and he refused to debate him. He refused, he silenced him and that’s the problem. Whether Duesberg was correct or not, I don’t reach a conclusion on that. I say specifically, I don’t know. But Duesberg’s arguments make a lot of sense, and if you read them, his book is absolutely persuasive.

That doesn’t mean … there’s tens of thousands of articles on AIDS and HIV, and I haven’t read them all, so, I’m not eligible or competent to make a judgment. But what I do know is that science is dynamic.

And there ought to be debate and anytime somebody says there’s a consensus in science, that person is a liar, and they’re manipulating you because the phrase scientific consensus is oxymoronic.

I was part of the legal team on the Monsanto case where we won $2.2 billion, we won three cases in a row, the last one won 2.2 billion, and then we settled on Roundup, and in that case, Monsanto came to court with top scientists in the country from Harvard and Stanford.

And they made very, very convincing presentations on what they said was consensus science and then we brought our scientists from Harvard and Stanford, who were looking at the same data and coming up with a different conclusion.

And, under cross examination, we were able to prove that their scientists were wrong, ours were right and persuade a jury to give these huge judgments. So, medicine is about consultation, it’s about debate, it’s about conversation. It’s not about one guy standing up there and saying “This is the answer.”

And if we want good policies for everything in a democracy, we need a free flow of information, and we need ideas to triumph in the marketplace.

And what Fauci has succeeded in doing in this country is really shutting down debate, completely, with this extraordinary capacity that he’s developed for relationships with the media and the social media, and the whole army of the medical cartel and intelligence agencies, who literally shut down debate on any issue that he wants to simply proclaim as truth.

Corbett 32:25

Well, let’s move on to another part. I know we have a limited time today and I want to cover what you talk about in chapter seven of your book, because I’m sure everyone by this point has heard, and if not, they should at least look it up, about Beagle-gate, as it has been termed, and the horrific experiments on animals that were funded through Fauci’s agency.

But not a lot of people have probably heard about what you cover in chapter seven of this book, Dr. Fauci, Mr. Hyde: NIAID’s Barbaric and Illegal Experiments on Children, which for me, personally, as a father of two beautiful, wonderful, healthy children, who I love more than life itself, this chapter was the most difficult to read through, but perhaps you can share some of this information with the listeners.

Kennedy 33:12

Well, it’s a part of a pair of chapters, one of them about his experiments on children, with these novel chemotherapy drugs that they were testing out for AIDS in the United States, and then the other one on children and pregnant mothers in Africa, and they were both just equally horrific.

And, in the United States, most of his experiments, he has targeted throughout his career, blacks and Hispanics for these kinds of medical experiments and, in this case, he was able to get control of foster homes in seven states and essentially turn these pharmaceutical companies loose on these children and the experiments that were conducted were absolutely barbaric.

The children were tortured; they did not have legal representation, which is illegal. They did not have guardians. You cannot put a child into a clinical trial in this country without an independent guardian and he made sure that those kids did not have guardians, and were literally tortured to death.

The children who refused, who stopped taking the drugs because they made them so sick, many of these kids did not have HIV, so they were getting no benefit from these drugs.

They were just being used as guinea pigs, and the children who refused or were non-compliant were sent to Columbia hospital and had feeding tubes installed in them so that the drug companies could continue to administer the drugs even when the kids fought back. And at least 85 of the kids died during the experiments.

Celia Farber, who was an incredible researcher, who worked with me on this chapter in the book, actually found a graveyard up in the Hudson Valley north of New York City in Hawthorne, New York – It’s called Gates of Heaven Cemetery – where there was a pit.

It was covered by an ash-turf carpet and it had hundreds and hundreds of tiny coffins haphazardly piled in that pit with the bodies of these children. And we don’t know where a lot of those kids came from, but we know that at least 85 of them, at least, were casualties of Tony Fauci’s experiments.

Then after New York, he took that roadshow to Africa and ended up killing a lot of pregnant mothers in Africa and getting away with it because of the power of his agency, his contacts … His whole thing fell apart at one point, but he was able to use his contacts with President Bush, to really get him out of a jam. And I talk about that.

As you know, there’s 2,200 footnotes in the book and every statement in there is sourced and cited to government databases, or to peer-reviewed publications, or to good sources. So, the story’s incredible.

I think the most important story in the book is in the last chapter, which is called Germ Games, which talks about the orchestrated, planned use of pandemics to clamp down totalitarian control and it was a surprise to me. It was all new research. Nobody had seen this before.

But the deep, deep involvement of the intelligence agencies in pandemic planning, which is weird, because the CIA is not a health agency. It doesn’t do public health. It does coup d’états.

And a lot of people know about event 201, which was this extraordinary pandemic planning event simulation that was put on in October 2019. It was hosted by Bill Gates and by Avril Gaines, who was the former deputy director of the CIA.

She’s now the head of the National Security Agency, the top spy in our country. And it’s an extraordinary group of people. They were simulating a Coronavirus pandemic, worldwide, in October 2019.

So, we now know from the national security agencies that the pandemic almost certainly escaped from the Wuhan lab on September 12th and was circulating already in Wuhan a month before this pandemic took place, and the Chinese knew about it.

And, at this simulation, is George Gao, who’s the head of the Chinese CDC, and then they have representatives from the drug companies, from the social media companies, the mainstream media companies like Bloomberg and the Washington Post and the health agencies — and they’re simulating a pandemic.

And they’re not simulating “How do you get vitamin D to people? And how do you get zinc? And how do you stockpile kerosene and how do you create grids to hook the 11 million doctors in the world to figure out what protocols are working and what repurposed medications are working?

How do you quarantine the sick and not healthy? How do you preserve the Constitution?” None of that was discussed. It was all “How do you use a pandemic as a pretense to clamp down totalitarian controls and obliterate and deconstruct democracy?”

And the last simulation, which is called Seminar Four, was all about “How do you get the social media companies to censor any discussion of a lab-generated Coronavirus epidemic?”

It’s pretty amazing when you’re thinking; “God! Do they think we’re stupid?” when you read this, you can’t… What I found out in the book was that this was not a one-off event, that they had probably around 20 of these events, I document, I think, 14 of them, beginning in 2000.

They’re called Operation Lockstep. It’s “How do you get all of the countries, all the liberal democracies in the world to pivot and turn into dictatorships overnight?”

And they’re all, every one of them, many of them are sponsored by Gates and Johns Hopkins Population Center, but of all of them, the one thing they all have in common is huge, huge presence by the CIA and they are all orchestrated.

All the scripts are written by them. There are famous people involved and many of them, Madeleine Albright, Senator Frank Church, other senators and Congressmen Gates — and they involved hundreds of thousands of people.

So, they involved frontline workers, not only health workers, but from the utilities, from the oil companies, from the police, firefighters, in all the cities around our country, Canada, the United States or Europe, Australia, and they did them all simultaneously in all these countries, and it’s really chilling, I think, for people to read.

Corbett 41:01

Absolutely, yes, and I was impressed by the thoroughness of that chapter, actually. You uncovered a lot of detail about a lot of these different drills, going all the way back to Dark Winter, which I’m sure my audience will be familiar with by now.

But you have a lot of detail in there and how that, then, relates to the anthrax attacks of a few months later that were miraculously predicted by several of the people associated with Dark Winter.

Kennedy 41:22

And the day that the anthrax attacks happened, there were Senate hearings on the Dark Winter anthrax attacks. They had prepared the whole country for an anthrax attack, weeks before the anthrax attack, and it turns out that the anthrax attack, although they blamed Saddam Hussein and we went to war, it turned out when the FBI completed its investigations that it came from one of three U.S. military labs and I talk about the identities of the people who were highly likely to have been involved.

Corbett 41:58

Exactly right! And you talk about the top-off drills, which I haven’t heard talked about since the 2000s, you even brought up one that I had never heard of yet from MERS 2017. So, I’m learning new stuff from that chapter, as well.

So, lots, and as you say, 2,200 footnotes in this book, it is a treasure trove for researchers like myself, and I’m sure I will be making use of that research in my coming reports. So, thank you for doing that research.

But let’s take a look, step back to sort of the bigger picture of what this book is about and what it represents. Because hopefully, I would sincerely hope that this bestselling book will have an effect towards hopefully exposing Anthony Fauci and what he has been involved with over the years, the blood that is on his hands, and hopefully, then, of course, prompting a resignation and a disgrace of that career.

I would sincerely hope that, but I would assume that’s not the end goal of all of this, because, as I’m sure you know, if you got rid of Fauci, there’d be a hundred mini “Fauci”s willing to take his place. So, what is that end goal? What are we actually reaching towards when we’re confronting this coming bio-security state?

Kennedy 43:10

Well, you know, listen, I talk about the Milgram experiment, and how the intelligence agencies and the health agencies have really developed these extraordinary techniques for using fear to disable critical thinking.

And if you look at the whole rationale behind this pandemic, all of these rationales collapse when you look at them: You know, why are we mandating vaccines that don’t prevent transmission? What is the possible reason? And that’s just one of many, many absurdities of what we’re doing, today.

But people who are subsumed in the orthodoxy, which is the product of orchestrated fear, misinformation, and propaganda, need to be woken up, and you have, as they learned in the Milgram experiment, 33% of people will violate their own conscience; their own deeply held values, if they’re ordered to do so by a medical authority. And I was able to connect, for the first time, the Milgram experiment to the CIA, to CIA ties.

And it’s one of the things they learned, that if you put everybody under house arrest, and you impose this kind of Stockholm syndrome (that makes people grateful to their captors and believing that the only way to survive is through absolute obedience and compliance), those fear levels keep people in this state of mass psychosis or hypnosis, and what we need to do, James.

And I know this is what you’ve been trying to do for years in your work, and me as well, is just to wake people up, because, as you know, liberals in our country do not believe in censorship, and they do not believe in mandatory medical products and giving things to children that are not proven to be good for them.

Corbett 45:17

They blindly trust Big Pharma, right? Or the intelligence agencies, right?

Kennedy 45:21

It goes against all of their values, and all of the expressed aspirations of the party, and it’s a war on the poor. Let’s face it. You know, many, many more people have died in — you know, we made this deal in the early 1990s globalism, of telling the developing world, if you hook into our economies and you start producing commodities rather than subsistence farming, we’re going to lift you all out of poverty.

One year, we shut down the whole global economy, and we tricked them into joining it, and now they can’t sell any of their products, there are 100 million children around the globe that are put into starvation or food insecurity that is going to disable them for a lifetime with malnutrition, their IQs and everything else, their functionality.

It’s a far worse tragedy, there are far more deaths from the lockdown than from COVID, and they are deaths of the young people, as opposed to older people. Where I live, the death rate from COVID in my community, which is Brentwood, is 1/3 the death rate in Compton.

So, all these liberals who think they’re doing the right thing by putting on masks and staying in their house, they’re killing people in the poor neighborhoods, who are being just destroyed by this lockdown, and they’re not making those connections.

And what I think we need to do is to wake people back up, and once they wake up, they’ll do the work for us of restoring democracy, but we need to wake them up. And the other side knows the peril for them in that, and that’s why they’re going out of their way to silence us — because they cannot afford to have people woken up.

It won’t just be disgrace and firing for Fauci. It would be Nuremberg trials and…

Corbett 47:28

This is it — the charges that you not only bring but document and really prosecute in this book are extremely serious. And if we take them seriously, yes, there are some serious consequences to what’s coming here. So, having said that, I fully agree and am on board with that agenda.

Having said that, I opened today’s conversation with a sarcastic reference to the “Disinformation Dozen,” which you’ve been enshrined in, because, obviously, my audience — my regular audience — will see that for the nonsense that it is. However, even within our — our movement — question mark? — of people who supposedly would be on our side, I guarantee you there will be people, even in my own audience, in the comment section, screaming that “Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is controlled opposition and James is a shill for having interviewed him.”

Not really recognizing that we are in, I think, the most profound peril towards human liberty that we have seen in our lifetime, facing the construction of a bio-security state that is going to undermine all of the tenets of Western jurisprudence that we have taken for granted all our lives.

We are in the fight for our life. And people are busy fighting each other, more so than fighting the real enemies here, and I want to direct people to a speech that you gave at the Ron Paul Institute in Washington, recently, Pandemic in the Road to Totalitarianism, where you, I think, reach out and make that call for unity. Can you share some of your thoughts on that?

Kennedy 49:03

Well, I would go even further than then you just went because I think this is a historical jeopardy to humanity that we’ve never seen before. The Black Plague and World War Two are arguably rivals for it. But I would argue this is the worst thing that’s ever happened to humanity, because the essential ambition of the totalitarian state is to control not just conduct.

But self-expression and thought, and for the first time in history, because of the technological revolution, the capacity for totalitarian forces to literally control every aspect of human expression and even human thought is now unprecedented.

Bill Gates brags that he’s going to be able to watch with his 60,000 satellites, every square inch of the earth, 24 hours a day. At least, in other parts of history, you could run and you could hide, and you could collect forces and begin an opposition, and we can’t do that anymore.

The Chinese have already deployed this vast array of facial recognition that claims to be capable of reading guilt on people, of looking at facial expressions from a distance and deciding whether somebody is guilty.

So, it’s literally pre-crime. It’s like Minority Report and that’s where we are today. In Hitler’s time, you could run for a border, there were ways that a certain number of people were going to escape and they were going to regroup, and there was opposition from other countries.

And today, we have a situation where the U.S. military and the CIA are conspiring with the Chinese CIA or the Chinese CDC and military scientists developing bio-weapons together and then lying, conspiring to lie to the public.

So, you have U.S. federal officials, who, we know, we have communications between Fauci and the Chinese, instructing him what to do and what to say, in order to hide the origins of this virus. So, we have U.S. federal officials who are conspiring with Chinese military officials to hide truth from the American public and then you look at Australia and Canada, these irreplaceable democracies that are now totalitarian regimes where they’re literally building concentration camps.

So, I would say this is Armageddon, this is the apocalyptical forces of ignorance and greed and totalitarianism and this is the final battle. You know, we need to win this one.

Corbett 52:23

I agree with you. This is the fight for the future of the human species because we are at that level where totalitarianism on a scale never before imaginable is now not only imaginable but is being implemented, and if we spend our time fighting with each other, then we lose, and we can’t afford to lose this.

So, I really hope that people will understand the gravity of this situation and I think you lay out a good chunk of that in this book — it’s ostensibly about Anthony Fauci. But as I say, that is just the hub from which you can explore many different spokes.

Finally, finally, before I let you go, I would be remiss in my duties, if I did not ask you about something that’s in the news at the moment. I’ll note a couple of years ago, myself and James Evan Pilato of MeteorMonarchy.com were covering on New World Next Week, an Instagram post that you made in which you were talking about the compelling evidence that Sirhan Sirhan was not the murderer of your father, but it was Thane Eugene Caesar, and I will link that to the edition of New World Next Week if people are interested.

But, obviously, right now, as we are recording this conversation, I believe Sirhan Sirhan is still waiting to hear whether or not he is going to be granted parole. What are your thoughts on that?

Kennedy 53:35

You know, Sirhan Sirhan obviously took some shots at my father but it’s also very clear that he did not fire the shots that killed my father and anybody who even looks at the autopsy … Thomas Noguchi, who was a classic corner, iconic coroner, did not believe that Sirhan could have killed my father.

There were 77 eyewitnesses in the kitchen. Sirhan was six feet in front of my father at all times. He fired two shots at my father, both of them, we know what happened. One of them hit Paul Schrade, the UAW leader, in the head, who’s still alive and fighting for Sirhan, now, because he knows that Sirhan did not kill my father. He’s one of my father’s closest friends.

And the other one hit a door jamb behind my father and was later recovered by the police and then destroyed. Sirhan was then grabbed by Rosey Grier, Rafer Johnson, and four other men, who created a dog pile. They put his arm behind him, and they could not get the gun off him — he had like a superhuman strength, and he fired the six other bullets and emptied the chamber.

All those bullets hit people. So, all the bullets are accounted for. My father was shot by four bullets from behind — one went through his shoulder pad, one went into his neck and his spinal cord, one was fired directly behind his ear and into his head and one into his back.

The ones that went through his body were fired in an upward trajectory and went into the ceiling. The one lodged in his brain and we have that and we know it does not match Sirhan’s guns.

Thomas Noguchi’s autopsy found that and it’s called in the medical literature the perfect autopsy because he didn’t want to happen to my dad what had happened in Dallas, where everybody had questions.

He flew in the best coroners from all over the country to sit in the theatre, including the Chief Coroner from all the armed services — each one of the services, Marines, the Army, the Navy, Air Force — to sit in the theater and watch him, and what he found was that all four of those shots were contact shots, in other words, the barrel of the gun was touching my father’s skin or clothing.

They each left carbon tattoos in his skin, and whoever fired those shots was standing directly behind my father, holding the gun against him and the man who was in that position was Eugene Thane Cesar, who was the security guard who had my father’s elbow and who directed them toward the table where Sirhan was.

Sirhan was clearly a distractor and everybody was looking at Sirhan while these shots were fired. My father must have known that Cesar was shooting him because he turned and pulled off Cesar’s clip-on tie.

And he turned slightly. He was always facing Sirhan but, as he fell, he had Cesar’s tie in his hand. He fell on Cesar and when Cesar got up, he was seen by a dozen witnesses with his gun out. He later claimed that he had pulled the gun out to fire at Sirhan but he’s changed that story again and again and again and he disposed of the gun and lied about it.

And Lisa Pease, when she did her book on my dad this year, which is a wonderful book, made some controversial allegations but I think her research is really impeccable and she was able to find employment applications of Cesar in which he admits that he worked for the CIA. His ostensible job was in the Lockheed plant in Los Angeles, he had gotten the security job a couple of days earlier.

And, you know, he had been the one who had directed my dad toward Sirhan. So, as you know, the police collected all the photographs that were taken in that room that night, 2,800 photographs, and destroyed them before Sirhan’s trial.

They switched bullets to make it appear that the bullet that killed my father was from Cesar’s gun. They used a fake bullet that was fired from a gun in their repository and the LAPD police who were specifically assigned to investigate his death were all CIA people who had been pulled out of service in Latin America and brought up to serve on this special unit; it was called Special Unit Senator, and they did a cover-up.

Corbett 58:48

They certainly did, at the very least. There is no doubt that there was a cover-up involved. And you raised Lisa Pease’s new book, which I know about but haven’t read. So, I will read that and hopefully get around to talking about the case in more detail.

But I wanted to bring people up to date on that, obviously, again, as we sit here recording this conversation, Sirhan Sirhan is potentially going to be released on parole. So, obviously, in the news at the moment. Other than that, most importantly, for today’s conversation, how do people get a copy of this new book, “The Real Anthony Fauci,” (and please don’t say Jeff Bezos, Amazon)?

Kennedy 59:24

I will not. The best place you can get it, from our point of view, is from your local bookstore, and you can do that by walking in or you can go online. Most of them have online presences but the reason that’s important is because the New York Times does not pay attention to … we need to get on the New York Times list, which we should because we sold a huge, unprecedented number in the first week. So, we should.

If the New York Times is honest, they will put us as number one bestseller, but they do their list in a strange way, which is they base it on sales not on Amazon but on independent bookstores.

So, if you can buy the book from an independent bookstore, it is going to help us a lot. And we actually have a list on our website, Children’s Health Defense website, of the stores that are the best ones to purchase it from and it’s like Harvard Coop and that wonderful bookstore in Portland, I forget the name of it [Powell’s Books] but I’ve been there many times, but they’re the big, well-known independent bookstores around the country, that’s the best place you can do.

But if you want to know what you can do for the resistance, right now, buy a copy of the book, and I make no money on the book.

I donate all my profits to Children’s Health Defense, but we need people to read the book. We need the media, which shuts us out on everything else, to have to acknowledge that this is a bestseller and that people are reading it, and that there’s an alternative story narrative out there that people are interested in and force the mainstream media to confront that fact.

And the best way to do that is — you know, — if you have family members who don’t agree with you, like me, if you have friends who don’t agree with you, one of the things that you can do is send them this book for Christmas. And the next time they disagree with you, just say “Have you read that book?” So, it’s something everybody can do.

And I know we have a lot of overlapping friends and you’ve been out there longer than anybody and you’ve educated a lot of the world, James. And I have a really deep, deep debt of gratitude to you for everything you’ve done, that deep, deep level of research, but more important than anything else, your reliability as a researcher, I really have tremendous respect for your precision and your discipline about making sure that what you write about is as close to truth as we can, as is available.

And I think that all of us, at our best, are engaged in a search for existential truths, and people, right now, have their minds clouded by fear and by propaganda, and you are really a beacon of clarity in a world that is filled with confusion and lies right now. So, thank you.

Corbett 1:02:32

Well, I very much appreciate those words. I am just a flawed human being doing my best but I do do my best to be accurate when I can be. So, I do very much appreciate that acknowledgment. And I will of course, direct people, once again, to Children’s Health Defense where, obviously, not just your work, but the work of teams of researchers and writers are doing diligent efforts that we often highlight on New World Next Week.

So, I will direct people there and to the book itself. I think we’ll leave today’s conversation there, but hopefully we can have you back on in the future to continue talking about this, the most important event of our lifetime. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., thank you for joining us today.

Kennedy 1:03:09

Thank you very much.