‘This Week’ With Mary + Polly: ‘They’re Going After the Kids’ + More

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– Polly, great to be here.

– Well, I’m Polly Tommey, this Mary Holland, she’s the president of Children’s Health Defense We have a lot to cover today, so let’s get straight to it. We’re gonna start with The Epoch Times. So we’re gonna start with AstraZeneca, the ongoing saga of AstraZeneca. So this headline female military member dies after COVID 19 vaccine and she showed no side effects, they said. This is Ukraine’s health agency has reported that a female military member died after receiving AstraZeneca Covishield the CCP virus vaccine, but stressed that the public should not jump to conclusions. So mind everybody, the Covishield is India’s version of the AstraZeneca vaccine. The vaccine developed by AstraZeneca. They say she died about two days after which I find odd, what, well, they should know when. And they say, well, wait for it. They say, that the woman actually did have underlying heart problems and underlying health conditions which is what we hear the whole time. Staying with AstraZeneca. Today’s news, literally breaking today Canada halts the AstraZeneca vaccine rollout for people under 55, citing substantial uncertainty amid blood clot concerns. We then have the Daily Mail today, which is the 30th of March, German hospitals ban AstraZeneca jabs for under 60s, over blood clot fears a day off the Canada also blocked the jab for the under 55s. I mean, we need to discuss why on earth we’re not concerned about over 55s and 60s but then today in the headline, big headline, introducing Vaxzevria, AstraZeneca renames the COVID vaccine as firm fights off controversy over this drug, their words, not mine. AstraZeneca has said the name change does not involve any alterations to the actual drug. So you’ve got to wonder why they did that. And then the last one from Sky News on AstraZeneca. Scientists are now to test the effectiveness of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine as a nasal spray. I have to say on that, I have a lot to say on that from the stories that we did on the bus from the flu mist and the dangers and the deaths that we reported on that. So do not think that just because you’re not having the jab that you’re safe. Well, a lot to cover on AstraZeneca, Mary, what say do you want all of that?

– Well, it’s fascinating, Polly. So I think the first thing I’d say is we see what a money rushed this is. What a gold rush these vaccines and drugs and nasal sprays and oral preparations are. You know, there’s a lot, a lot. There’s billions, trillions of dollars to be made here and Pharma is cashing in. But the more important thing I think is that it is floundering, right? It’s floundering. AstraZeneca is not doing well. Over 12 countries have rejected it. And it’s not even just, you know, Canada yesterday, Germany today, but the Charité Hospital in Berlin that is where one of the PCR inventors is, you know, works. That they are rejecting giving this to women over 60 or people over 60. So, you know, AstraZeneca is not doing well. And what the scientists that I’m talking with and physicians, Polly say is that the things that we’re talking about about these blood clots from the AstraZeneca vaccine they’re no different than what’s happening with the Pfizer and the Moderna shots. And so there’s a lot of focus on AstraZeneca and it’s from the EU. And most of the, sort of the pushback is in Europe. And this is in the context of Brexit and so on. But the reality is is that these blood clots seem to be linked to the spike proteins and all of these injections cause the body to produce the spike protein or they, you know, they include this spike protein. So I don’t think this story is over. I think that there’s real, you know, it’s not rolling up the way they wanted to.

– And to change the name, Mary.

– Well, then that’s interesting. It’s not clear, Polly, whether that had been in the works for awhile, but you know, give me a break is Vaxzevria gonna be a better selling point. I mean, I think it sounds horrible, but whatever. I mean, they’re trying to get away from what has been a scandal. It’s a scandal. I mean, you know, over 10 countries have kicked it out already, over 20.

– And for those that are thinking, well, I won’t take AstraZeneca. Then I’ll take the Pfizer or whatever. We are getting reports of blood clots in all of these vaccines.

– Oh, absolutely.

– It’s just that AstraZeneca under that-

– Yeah, AstraZeneca has been fingered but the same basic properties are part of all of these injections.

– Okay, so we’ll keep reporting back on the AstraZeneca as things break with that. So onto a very disturbing article. I find it extremely disturbing and I actually posted this and the comments were, people were feeling the same way. It’s from the Insider. Pregnant women are protected by the Pfizer and Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccines and pass high levels of disease fighting antibodies onto their babies, the study finds They say testing the umbilical cord blood and the placenta they found that the babies born to women who had the vaccine had strikingly higher levels of COVID fighting antibodies than babies born to women who had previously had COVID 19. I have to say that, if you do go to the VAERS site, you will see that babies have died or following this vaccine or it’s being reported that this has happened. So I find that extremely disturbing and misleading to those pregnant women out there. And as you know, Mary, my daughter is pregnant. She had to come off a Facebook page of women pregnant with her because they were all running out to get the shot for their baby, because they felt they’d been told and they believed from their doctors this vaccine is gonna save that baby. And it was just-

– It’s so disturbing, Polly, it’s so disturbing. So let me just tell you a little bit more about what’s disturbing about that article in Business Insider. So the whole article is premise on a pre-print, not peer reviewed, not yet published, a pre-print from the Association for Obstetricians and Gynecologists, ACOG and this is their journal. And they have been completely behind the HPV vaccine, giving that to pregnant women for which there is no safety data whatsoever. They have been completely aligned with Pharma’s agenda. So I wasn’t shocked, although it’s really disturbing. You know, they’re saying that in these babies that are born to women who were pregnant and got vaccinated they’re saying that they have high levels of antibodies. Who knows whether that’s a good thing or a terrible thing, Polly. There’s no long-term safety data. You don’t have to have antibodies to have protection. So this is just, I mean, this is an experiment and it’s horrifying. And one of the other interesting notable things about this article is that they continually talk about pregnant people, as if both men and women can be pregnant. That’s just not the case biologically. So it’s just an oddity to talk about pregnant people instead of talking about pregnant women. But it’s a sign of the times, it’s this idea that, you know everything is equal and we can’t be discriminatory in any way. So it’s a very disturbing article. You know, there’s no rationale that I see that is legitimate but we’ll come back to this and other are articles to vaccinate infants and pregnant women.

– And still, if you go to the sites of the vaccine makers they still tell you that they have not done the safety study.

– Oh no, they haven’t done the safety studies but doctors make money, sadly, Polly. And doctors sadly are really no longer living with the oath first do no harm. They are living effectively with the oath we’ll do what Pharma tell us to. I mean, not all doctors, but too many.

– Okay, I’ve got it. Let’s move on to vaccine passports because this has been big in the news in the last week. So first one, New York is expanding its mobile vaccine passport. Then New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has announced the state will expand its vaccine passport program beyond a pilot phase, enabling all state residents to display proof on their phones that they’ve been vaccinated against COVID 19, is called the Excelsior Pass. And it was developed by New York State and IBM. And that also links in with The Defender articles so go and look at this people on Children’s Health Defense by the amazing Meghan Redshaw. And it’s titled coming soon, vaccine passports will determine where you can go and what you can do. The Biden administration is partnering with private companies to develop a vaccine passport system claiming it’s the only path to normalicy but critics warn passports will steal people’s liberty and data. Everybody very nervous about this, Mary.

– Polly, nervous for very good reasons. So I’m in New York, it had been piloted but now Governor Cuomo who’s in terrible political shape is pushing this. I think with the idea that it’s going to win him brownie points with voters or at least with his paymasters, which it will surely will with his paymasters. There, in the article that you mentioned that Megan Redshaw published on The Defender yesterday, Monday, she cites an interview that’s done by Steve Hilton of Fox with Naomi Wolf who is a longtime Democrat who had, who is the head of something called Daily Clout. And they both agree that if these passports roll out pervasively in the United States and in Europe this is the end of liberty in the West. And I really like what Hilton said. He said, “It’s not about the vaccine. It’s not about the virus. It’s about your data.” And one of the things about this New York Excelsior, they, and they call it an Orwellian push. One of the things about this Excelsior Pass is it goes on blockchain. It can easily be put together with all of your medical records, with all of your credit history, with your, you know, with your address, with your phone number, with all kinds of data and it’s permanent, it can’t ever be removed. So this is a way of tracking that’s already being used in China, right? So you have a QR code on your phone and you show it. And either you get a green, which allows you to go in, or you get a read and you can’t go into that venue. And the idea that we are modeling ourselves on Chinese authoritarian, technocratic controls is truly frightening. And one of the things that’s also really striking about that story, Polly and we talked about this last Tuesday last week is that this is obviously being coordinated on a global scale. So this is that the green passport just got voted on last week in the European parliament. And fortunately the vote was not, you know, unanimous in favor of the green passports. It was 468 to 203. So the yeas had it, but it does show us that actually with effective lobbying and effective education for these parliamentarians there’s a real shot still to undo this. They won’t take a final vote in Europe until the end of April and here in New York, I promise you, Polly, there’s gonna be quite a bit of pushback against is and lawsuits likely.

– Okay, well, keep your eyes on Children’s Health Defense report on that.

– Yes, ma’am.

– Right, New York Times, the headline. We can’t end the pandemic without vaccinating kids. United States coronavirus vaccine administers, they say over 2 million doses daily and soon all adults will be able to get them. Children are the next vaccination frontier. And if we want to substantially drive down the COVID 19 cases, we must with urgency. The burden of long-term effects from COVID-19 and children remains unclear. Exactly, especially as infections that, you know, go undiagnosed. They’re saying if we don’t vaccinate all children it’s possible, the virus will continue to spread and mutate into more dangerous variants. They’re going off to the kids basically.

– Well, we’ve always been saying, Polly that they were gonna go up to the kids. That’s where sort of the legal infrastructure is in place that 70 million kids every year in the US and that is, you know, permanent money, right? There’s no marketing, it’s a mandate for school. So we always known they would do this. But it’s interesting ’cause they have to acknowledge this is in the New York Times today in the print version. And they have to acknowledge that kids are at low risk, which they do. And then they say, so why should you rush? And they basically give us three reasons. First, they’re using the same old canard they always use it. You have to protect the immunocompromised. You have to get your kids vaccinated so that you protect the child who can’t get vaccinated. And they always screw the kid who can’t get vaccinated anyway. So that’s a canard, but that’s their first reason. Their second reason is to thwart the variants, right? If everybody doesn’t get vaccinated if we don’t have an eradication mentality there will be these new variants and we’ll come back to that. And the thirdly, they say we have to, we have to vaccinate the kids in order to establish herd immunity. And my favorite part of that article, Polly, I mean favorite in a sarcastic sense is a quote that says, “Prepare for the anecdotes of children getting sick and parents blaming the vaccines.” You know, don’t take those statements out of context. In other words, they’re already preparing readers that you’re gonna hear that children are gonna be severely injured or may die and don’t believe it. They’re just anecdotes. So it’s a very warped op-ed by one of the people is at Georgetown University, which has been one of the main proponents of the vaccine agenda.

– It’s disturbing.

– It’s very disturbing.

– So disturbing.

– And that’s why we do what we do, Polly. It’s very disturbing that where the real emphasis is, long-term is on the kids. It’s on the babies and the kids

– Unbelievable, right? CNN, high levels of COVID infections right now could mean problems for vaccines later. This is from an ex-CDC chief who says not enough people are protected against the virus yet only 13.7% of the US population is fully vaccinated. And the dangerous variant that’s rapidly spreading could fuel another surge of infections. So Americans need to get vaccinated and continue to wear masks, limit travel and indoor time with people not from their household. And then it goes onto blamed spring breakers in Florida.

– Right, it’s all about, this is the new head of the CDC, Dr. Walensky, and it’s all about, you know, maintain these restrictions, you know, go get vaccinated, wear your masks, social distancing, don’t travel, don’t be with large groups. This is all about, you know, keeping it going, right? Keep the narrative going, keep all of the restrictions in place.

– Okay, I’m gonna jump over to England. And this is a really important article that was out yesterday, I think, and they picked a small sleepy town in England to bring this out. This is how we work. We get out slowly and then people get used to it. And then before you know it’s headlines, and before it’s you know it’s here over in America. So it was very important this ’cause we know this is coming. And the headline is, the National Health Service is planning an autumn booster rollout of COVID vaccines alongside seasonal flu jabs. This is to deal with potentially dangerous new strains of coronavirus. Reports say that network of dried flu vaccination centers are being prepared for this next phase, boost the jabs, they say, will be critical. And that was from the scientific advisor, Professor Neil Ferguson. So I just want to, just for those people on the family members of mine who’ve decided to take the vaccine. They think they’re gonna get all that freedom which they now haven’t got their freedom in England. They’ve actually locked the borders. You cannot leave the country. They’re still in lockdown. Not only have you just put that jab in you you’re going to have to have your boosters and your flu vaccine because there’ll be potentially passports that will say you’re not up to date. And we all know, Mary. I mean, I’ve been vaccinated. My kids have been vaccinated, but that costs us anti-vaxxers because they’re not up to date or unvaccinated ’cause they’re not up to today. So unless you’re up to date with what they’re throwing at you was a complete waste of time having your AstraZeneca. You’ve got to keep going.

– Oh, absolutely, I mean, your anti-vax, Polly. If you miss one vaccine on the schedule, right? I mean you are anti-vax if you ask a question, so yeah, it’s a disturbing but interesting piece from the Eastbourne Herald and it is this idea that it’s gonna be permanent and there’s gonna be COVID booster shots every year with your flu shot. And they’re gonna make access as easy as possible and as convenient as possible. And I find just, you know, somehow perfect that they’re quoting Neil Ferguson, the, the Dr. Doom who grossly overstated what the expected mortality would be in the UK. And the guy who himself violated his own, you know, endorsed restrictions so that he could go meet with his married lover. I mean, the idea that we’re gonna listen to Neil Ferguson on the, anything pandemic related at this point, just is outrageous to me.

– Right, so while we’re keeping our eyes on England. So I know there’s a lot of really good people. Just don’t think I’m bashing England, I love England. And there are some fighters out there.

– Oh, absolutely, we work very closely with John Stone. He’s one of our heroes in the UK and many others.

– And many other, all right. Okay, we have to mention the Krispy Kreme situation and the list of freebies. An article out this week, I’m running as the freebies. I’m not going to read them all out because quite frankly they don’t deserve to have any advertising. So basically if you get your vaccine and you can take your vaccine card to a whole list of places there are things like you, you know, you get a free Krispy Kreme donut, percentages off restaurants, off vacations, free drinks, gift cards. If you take your card in, you can get those things. And Mary, you sent me this article where Krispy Kreme responded to what if I don’t want to be vaccinated can I still get this offer? And they wrote back and said, we understand choosing to receive the COVID 19 vaccine is a highly personal decision. If you have made the decision to not receive the COVID vaccine, please visit us on Monday the 29th of March and the 24th of May to receive a free donut and a medium brew coffee. So what’s that all about?

– Well, honestly they got pushed back, which is good to see. They wouldn’t be doing that if they hadn’t gotten pushed back that they’re discriminating against people. So they’re giving some options to people who can’t be vaccinated or choose not to be. But you know, I hope, Polly, that these freebies, these incentives make people stop and think like why do I have to get a donut to get a vaccine if it’s so great and it’s gonna save my life? You know, like, what is this really all about? If you need free cookies to induce you to take a life changing medication, it’s crazy. It’s just crazy.

– I’m not a nutritionist or anything but there’s a mother who has turned, you know, into really good food. I would say that a vaccine and sugar is maybe not a good mix

– And you think, I mean, it’s hard to, look up junk food in the dictionary. There is a Krispy Kreme donut, you know what I mean? There’s no nutritional value to a Krispy Kreme donut. There’s just not, I think they taste good but there’s no nutritional value.

– Nope, right, now onto a very serious subject here. This is an article from America’s Frontline Doctors. Former Pfizer Vice President, it’s a big job, and Chief Science Officer, Dr. Mike Yeadon says, “It’s entirely possible that this will be used for massive scale depopulation,” and a lot of talk about this. I’ve never really commented too much on us ’cause it’s so dark to be thinking about these things. But he says, “Since I know this with certainty and I know those driving it know this too we have to inquire, what is their motive?”

– I wanna scale it back a little bit from the headline, Polly. So I think Michael Yeadon is really somebody we need to be listening to. He is retired, but he worked at Pfizer as a chief scientist in the respiratory area in research for 17 years. And I’ve had the privilege to speak with him a number of times. And he’s somebody who really thinks that there is an incredibly important role for well-researched appropriate medications. So his issue with COVID as I’ve understood it and as this article makes clear, is that it’s just untested and that there are effective treatments. So he’s saying there is no medical rationale for a mass vaccination program when we don’t know the long-term effect and we do have good alternatives. And so he says, I’m gonna quote a couple of things. He says, “It’s wholly unethical to administer something novel and for which the potential for unwanted effects after a few months is completely uncharacterized.” So this is an experiment. He’s telling us, it’s an experiment. And he actually says, you know, this is evil, right? If you’re actually rolling something out when you have no idea what’s gonna happen, it’s evil. And he speaks to the issue of variants that we’ve been talking about, Polly, that’s in the news. And he says, “Based on his experience, no variant will differ from the main virus in circulation by more than 0.3%.” So 99.7%, these variants are gonna be the same. And he says, it’s, he disagrees with Vandenbosch. And he says that that narrative is very suspect. And he says that it’s a fiction that the variants are likely to escape immunity. And he goes on to say these ideas of these passports showing that you’ve gotten a vaccine or that you have antibodies are crazy. He say, “Antibodies are probably rather unimportant in host protection against the virus.” We have an innate immune system that does not depend on antibody production. So he says, “I no longer believe that the regulators are capable of protecting us.” And he is very concerned about booster vaccines, what he calls top-up vaccines. He says, “Please warn every person.” And this is somebody who has been very, very reticent to say things like this up until now. And he says, in conclusion, he says, “If someone wishes to harm or kill a significant part of the population the system being put in place would enable it. It is my considered view that it entirely possible that this will be used for massive scale depopulation.” So he’s not saying, you know, he’s not a conspiracy theorist. He is not saying, “Oh, there’s, you know, there’s a plan to depopulate the world.” But he’s saying in a very conservative way if somebody wanted to do this they could with the system that’s being put in place. And because there is no medical rationale for what’s happening, it’s very possible that it is going to be used for massive scale depopulation. I think we have to take this voice very seriously. This is somebody who really believes in vaccines and their utility. And he is telling us what is being done has no medical rationale and that it is evil.

– And I agree with him. I mean, it what it is. And what a brave man as well. I mean, he’s been censored and torn to the press. And the usual thing that happens when you speak out from a high position.

– You know the thing when a powerful person from the inside like Andy Wakefield, or, you know, Bill Thompson when they come forward, sorry?

– [Polly] Or Bobby.

– Yeah, Bobby Shaw. Bobby’s, yeah, but I was thinking of, from the medical establishment they’re just ripped to bits, but yes, absolutely, Bobby too. I mean, they’re just defamed and libeled and dragged through the mud and called all kinds of absurd names and lied about, right? Just flat out lied about.

– And that just, I just wanna say one more thing on that and the thing that’s sort of dismays me more than anything else you could send, say the article from Mike Yeadon to your parents or something. And they’ll say, “Well, I looked up on CNN or BBC and they said, he’s discredited and he’s angry ’cause he got sack or whatever lies their makeup.” Why, I don’t understand why you wouldn’t listen to that over the BBC or you know, who are funded by the Gates Foundation. It’s like an extraordinary brainwashing situation that we’ve got going on here in the world right now. And I know the people listening here are suffering greatly with people they love just not waking up to at least doing their own research.

– Polly, there, you know, the short answer is propaganda works. That’s why governments and corporations do it. And censorship works. And when you have propaganda and censorship which is what we’re experiencing now globally most people are gonna fall for it. Most people are gonna fall for it.

– And I’m not judging people because-

– I’m not judging people at all. I think it’s understandable. But most people are gonna listen to the mainstream narrative that’s told to them over and over again and they’re not gonna see what’s being censored. Or if they see it, it’s gonna have been so tainted that they’re gonna say, “Oh, well that person’s discredited. That person has been debunked.” Exactly what the mainstream narrative wants you to think.

– Yeah, okay. Well, let’s go Bloomberg, their headline. We must start planning for a permanent pandemic. With coronavirus mutations pitted against vaccinations in global arms race, we may never go back to normal, they say. An assumption has informed almost all of our thinking about the pandemic. At some point it will be over and then we’ll be back to normal. And this premise, they say, is almost certainly wrong. We may never achieve herd immunity, all because of new variants that believe almost like new viruses. So vaccine makers, a feverish-lly working on making new jabs for viruses that have aren’t here yet, I presume, I don’t know.

– Well, they’re gonna be related to the current ones, you know, this is a virus. So a couple of things that I found really interesting about this article. So they cite to two institutes, one in Washington, the state of Washington, one in London, both very heavily funded by the Gates Foundation and no surprise, Polly. They tell us that the vaccine is the only path towards lasting herd immunity. Even though we may never get there it’s the only path to take. And then I love this author who’s, you know very much sort of in the tank, if you will. He wrote for the Economist and sort of similar publications, he says, “Our brave new world won’t look anything like the old world.” He’s saying it doesn’t have to be dystopian but it’s gonna be completely different. I mean, I think these people haven’t really ever read a product insert from a vaccine, Polly. I, how can people know that the side effects are listed in general is death and severe injury and think that this is a good idea. I mean, they clearly haven’t watched “Vaxxed” or “Vaxxed II: The People’s Truth” and I’m serious about that.

– Many of them amazing documentaries coming out right now, actually. Okay, let’s go to the BBC. Now I’m a little confused by this, Mary so I was hoping that you might be able to help me. The headline is, women under 50 have worse longterm COVID outcomes. Two separate studies have found that women under the age of 50 have worse long-term outcomes after being in hospital with COVID-19. what that all about?

– You know, it’s hard to know, Polly. I don’t think that’s necessarily true but it’s interesting to note that that would be a target audience of women of childbearing years and that they especially want women of childbearing years to go get these COVID vaccines. That’s a possible explanation, but it’s hard to understand. They’re saying that the women experience more fatigue and more breathlessness. I don’t know. I don’t, I wouldn’t put a lot of store by that but it’s interesting that there seems to be this special focus on pregnant women and younger women about the threat of COVID.

– Yeah, and especially as they prepare to, certainly in England vaccinate everyone under 50. So it’s kind of, it just fits in with that. I don’t know about where we are even over here. Now let’s talk about the Catholic church, shall we? For a second, because I think we need to do that. I see people in the feed already talking about it earlier on, we are gonna cover it. I’m gonna read you what I know what the headlines here. So San Diego Catholic leaders encourage COVID vaccinations. The headline on that. 100 priests and prominent deacons received their second Pfizer dose. They have offered church facilities as vaccination sites. Now that’s not just the Catholic church, we see in England the churches are all closed for worship but they are open as vaccination sites. So that’s not just them. Bishop Robert McElroy. His quote says, “God has brought us American vaccines that can heal us and heal our world. Vaccinations are safe, effective and holy in keeping with the Catholic teaching.” And on the aborted fetal tissue issue. Bishop Dolan says, “Our church has looked into this and it’s morally legitimate.” And also in the news, Novus Ordo parish banned non-vaccinated people from going to confession. You can’t make this up. I can’t tell you how everything is wrong with that. How deceived they are with what they say, that’s all I can say.

– It’s very distressing, Polly but we have to recognize what’s happening. $2 billion was just set aside in this, you know, rescue package for COVID for outreach. And one of the top priorities is communities of faith. And they’re essentially buying off religious institutions. They are asking them to carry their water. And I think a lot of people, religious people like others are deceived, but the end of this pastoral letter that this pastor featured in the article in San Diego says, is, you know, “The vaccines with our continued masking and social distancing in the coming months will bring this hateful pandemic to an end.” So they’re saying, you know, we’re just gonna continue doing everything we’re already doing the vaccines doesn’t make us more free. We still have to have mass. We still have to have distancing, but we’ll hate the pandemic. It’s like the pandemic is not out there. It’s not a stick figure. You know, it’s likely there’s some kind of viral thing and it’s people. And so it’s just, it is very troubling.

– It is and it’s not just them. I have to say there are lots of podcasts out at the moment with well-known faith-based programs where you’re getting medical doctors coming on saying, you know, they believe in God, but they believe this vaccine is essential. And they say things like if vaccines have been available when Jesus was born Mary would have vaccinated. I’m sorry, I-

– Oh my God, Polly, that is unbelievable.

– It is, it is, but it’s out there.

– You know, so I think to us, Polly, I think one of our jobs in the advocacy community is to reach out to communities of faith and we are starting to do that. And one of the interesting things that we’ve learned is the government is reaching out to the top 10% of religious institutions with biggest congregations, the mega churches, you know, 150,000 in a in a pastoral letter. That’s not most congregations. Most congregations are 100 people, 150, that’s it. And so I think there is a big job here to go and educate those people about what vaccines really are and what they can do and what this kind of discrimination is going to mean. I mean, if you’re gonna have services and confessions only available to people who vaccinate, what does that mean? Would Jesus do that? You know, I, would Mohammad do that? I don’t think so.

– Yeah, and I just like to say on this note I’d like to give a shout out to Daystar Television who are talking about the subject in a very, looking at both sides. And they’ve had Bobby Kennedy they’ve had Del Bigtree, they’ve had a number of people on that. Brian Hooker has been on. I think it is a lot of people and they are really discussing it in a way that I would call senseful.

– Kudos to Daystar, I agree with you.

– So yeah, go and check out their website. Right, so let’s move on from that although it’s extremely disturbing, all of that and I know a lot of you are discussing it, it is disturbing, we agree with you. NBC, sorry, CNBC, their headline. 12 attorney generals call on Facebook and Twitter to remove anti-vaxxer from their services. 12 accounts and the associated organizations are responsible for 65% apparently of the public anti-vaccine content on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. The New York Times put the most ridiculous article in my opinion, it was headed, far-right extremists moved from stop the steal to stop the vaccine. They say extremist organizations are now bashing the safety and efficiency of the coronavirus vaccines in an effort to try to undermine the government. And then we go on to another one, which says big, their headline, big tech CEOs waffle on banning the 12 major anti-vaxxers at the US congressional hearing, a huge percentage of misinformation and conspiracy theories about vaccines can be traced back to apparently just a dozen people, they report, we must all be brainwashed from. And one of them being Bobby Kennedy.

– Yeah, so a couple of things on that, Polly. First it is so disturbing in the United States the 12 attorney general’s lawyers, the highest legal professional in the state, serving the state would ask these social media platforms for more censorship. That is so disturbing. And we are fighting that in our lawsuit against Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg and the Fact Checker saying, “No, the government may not use you, social media, as your proxy to violate the first amendment.” Free speech is a cornerstone of democracy. You can’t have a democracy without free speech and the free press. So that’s just so, so disturbing that AG offices and they are in, you know, blue states for the most part would be asking Congress to sensor social media. But I wanna talk about that New York Times article that you mentioned which is called from stop the steal to stop the vaccine. This was on the front page of the New York Times on Sunday. That is the most read part of the New York Times in a week. So they really put this up there. And the assertion at the beginning of the article is that far right groups are going to the website of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. As if somehow you have to be a far right extremist to want information that the government publishes about injuries and deaths from vaccines that are being pushed on every person in the country. It’s just extraordinary. And they do have a photo of Dr. Simone Gold from the American Frontline Doctors. And they are absolutely trying in a way to align vaccine skepticism and people who advocate for vaccine choice and far right extremist. And we know already domestic terrorists. And in fact, they are highlighting what is a part, a growing partisan divide that Republicans are more likely to refuse vaccines than Democrats are. Like on another they include a reference to David Ike and they suggest that VAERS shouldn’t be for people. VAERS is for scientists and doctors. You shouldn’t go look at VAERS yourselves. And they’re very worried about, you know, vaccine choice groups and extremists and political sort of opponents to the government policy joining together in a big tent. And I think they should be afraid. I mean, what people are concerned about is government overreach. And if it’s not overreach to say that, you know, we should have access inside every person’s bloodstream. I just don’t know what overreach is Polly, honestly.

– You know, they’re kind of successful. They’re taking us down. Bobby is down on his Instagram, down on Facebook, yesterday Vaxxed II Instagram was taken down, no warning, just taken straight down.

– So, yeah, we are, you know, you and I have had many a conversation, Polly, we are working hard people to put together a new platform. We are not gonna continue to be censored in the way that we are. And we are exploring actively new platforms so that we can continue to speak our truth.

– And that’s why people it’s imperative you sign up to childrenshealthdefense.org because if you if we don’t know how to reach you you won’t know where we are. All right, so I’m so proud of Bobby Kennedy for this next article. This is in Children’s Health Defense Defender and the, there’s a reason why I’m particularly proud of this. So their headline is RFK Jr. to Rutgers president, the COVID vaccine mandate violates federal law. The announcement last week by this university, that it would require all students to get the COVID vaccine prompted Children’s Health Defense Chairman, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to remind the university officials that federal law prohibits mandating emergency use authorization vaccines. And the reason, why I’m so proud of this because this is also for the military and everybody else who thinks that they can mandate these vaccines for their emergency use. You cannot and turns out Defense will remind you of that every single time.

– We will. So this is important, Polly. Rutgers is The State University of New Jersey. And New Jersey is the most, it’s the home court for the pharmaceutical industry. So it’s not a shock that Rutgers would be sort of first out of the gate to say, “You can’t come back to school unless you’ve been vaccinated.” Interesting, they didn’t require it of the faculty right away, only for students. There’s a little bit more legal precedent for that. But we said, “No, you can’t mandate emergency use authorization products.” They are experimental by definition under the Nuremberg Code which is the basis for ethical medicine the world around you cannot force somebody to participate in a medical experiment. And anything that is emergency use authorization is an experiment. And even in the military when they were trying to force service people to take the anthrax vaccine, six brave soldiers went to federal court in Washington DC in a case called DOE one versus Rumsfeld. And they won. The courts said, “You’re right, under federal law you can’t be forced to take an emergency use authorization product.” In addition, in that article, by Megan Redshaw that was published yesterday, it points out that a surgeon that we’ve interviewed and he’s been in CHD publications, Dr. Newsom he points out that just because, that the standard of care applies and that there could be a liability for the university if they violate the standard of care. You have to screen people, you have to make sure that people are healthy enough to get vaccinated. And if you indiscriminately vaccinate people and they have a right to refuse you’re likely to have liability, not to mention injury.

– Well, it just gets, it gives a lot of people a lot of hope that you’ve got our backs again. And so thank you. Well, ABC News, law makers require nursing homes to disclose vaccine data. This is actually going into the good news. I put this a little bit into the good news section. Nursing homes have to publicly disclose their vaccination rates for flu and pneumonia but there is no similar mandate for COVID-19 shots. So lawmakers of both parties are urging the Biden administration to require disclosure of coronavirus vaccination rates for residents and staff.

– Well, Polly, this is, so this is, again, this is a kind of a restriction and this is already the case for schools. That for many states, you can find out what the vaccination rate is in a particular school. And I think it’s oppressive, frankly and it’s being held up as a proxy for health. And to be honest with you if I had to choose a nursing home, I think I’d choose one with, you know, no people who are vaccinated or a low vaccine rate. It’s meant to be sort of, I think, an inducement for people to vaccinate and an inducement to the nursing home to ask their people to be vaccinated and to have their stuff vaccinated. You know, we’ll see in a year, if it backfires, Polly, we don’t know.

– Okay, so I’ve put this a little cheekily into the good news section is good news for America, I think so, or back on the AstraZeneca thing because of all the AstraZeneca drama. Experts raising concern that earlier rate of 79% was outdated. This data drama is going to delay the American approval adding to the vaccine Modavanti to AstraZeneca. So I’m gonna spin that round and put that in our good news section that AstraZeneca is delayed any kind of emergency use authorization for American. So you say from that one.

– Make them back as Vaxzevria or whatever.

– Whatever, yeah, exactly, that’s gonna come back, you’re right. Okay, good news again. So the Irish Times comes out with this headline anti-vax email deluge hits European parliament. The Irish and international members of the European parliament have been diluge with thousands of emails organized by anti-vaxxers and anti lock down activists in a bit to stop the introduction of their vaccine certificates in the European Union. It goes on to advertise Children’s Health Defense in a big way. And it talks about a different template letter by Children’s Health Defense. So you get a big mention in that.

– Well, I have to say I’m very proud of that one. So it was a little bit last minute, frankly but we organized for people to have a write in campaign. There’s no reason that it should only be constituents or people in Europe who say that a green passport is a bad idea. And so we published a story last week and thousands of people, we actually didn’t have a a really easy way to do it but people cut and pasted the email addresses for members of the European parliament. And they were so overwhelmed by emails that it was hard for them to do their job. And they got the message, Polly and I’m thrilled about that. And hear they’re complaining as people representing the public that they’re angry when people from the public reach out to them. I mean, it’s outrageous. So, and the good news was, is even though the vote favored the green passport, Polly 468 to 200 something or other, it could be much worse for us. And what that tells me as somebody who’s done lobbying over the years is, you know, so people in Europe, like we should stay on it, right? If we could switch the votes of 100 people the green passport doesn’t pass in Europe. The European Union has 600 million people, twice as many as in the United States. If we turn it back in Europe, it’s huge. So I think it’s very exciting actually. And the next vote isn’t until the end of April. So there’s real opportunity to go and make a difference in Europe, on the green pass.

– And on that note, Children’s Health Defense, Europe. People can contact them as well.

– Absolutely, so on our webpage for Children’s Health Defense we have an item in the left-hand column called chapters. And under that there’s Europe, excuse me, Senta Depuydt is leading the charge in Europe. She’s based in Belgium and she’s doing a terrific job and there’s a lot going on with CHD Europe.

– Yeah, and they’re a great organization. Okay, so one other thing I wanted to remind everybody is Children’s Health Defense do have a form on their website where you can report your own COVID-19 vaccine reaction without any censorship whatsoever. We’ve had some interesting reports coming in. We’ve had before it’s of hair dye being, and causing reactions in the vaccinated, some salons in England are actually asking for skin tests with, you know, clients that have been there for ages were absolutely fine and now having reactions. So they have to have a skin test first. So what we’re hearing is that, we’re hearing also of fillers or Botox or whatever those things are, people reacting after the vaccines on that. So whatever you, your reactions are after these vaccines, we wanna hear them all, so-

– We do, so please do. We have right on the homepage on the Defender is how to report any COVID adverse reactions, both to VAERS, we think that’s really important, but also for you to just tell us what your experience was. We want people to be able to see those, there’s no name but you tell us where you were and what happened. And it’s important so that people, you know, remember this is a global experiment. Nobody really knows what happened. So if people write in and say, this is what happened to me, it is reassuring to the next person that you know, that person survives, so.

– Yeah, and so if you’re thinking, well, I’m a little nervous to do it ’cause I don’t want Polly and Mary to read my name out we’re not going to do that. We’re never going to do that.

– No, no, no. And you don’t even put your name on it, Polly. I mean, it is anonymous. You just, you submit the information because it is important to get the word out about what these products are doing to people.

– Yeah, and we have another thing for you all here. Carrie Bundy, she’s the translation coordinator at Children’s Health Defense. And she’s looking for volunteers to help with the Italian translations, this is very important, we wanna get all this information out to every country that we can. So if you can help Carrie Bundy with that go to Children’s Health Defense and there’s an application there for translator proffer on their site.

– And we’re now gonna be posting our video, Polly on Wednesdays. And we will have all the links. So we’ll have a link there too for where you could fill in to be a translator. So we’ve really done a great job in the last few months with the generous donation to make translations available in Spanish, French and German. But we really are falling down on the Italian. And we know we have many, you know, friends and colleagues in Italy who really need this information too. So if you can help us, please do we’ll be extremely grateful.

– Any more news from Children’s Health Defense?

– Yes, ma’am, a lot going on. I don’t have to tell you that. So we filed a reply in the case against Facebook yesterday. I think it’s very strong and we’re expecting to have a hearing in early May. Facebook is trying not surprisingly, and Zuckerberg and the Fact Checkers are trying to dismiss our complaints saying there’s no violation of the first amendment. There’s no racketeering. There’s nothing wrong in what Facebook is doing. And we’ll see what the judge says. That’s gonna happen soon. We had bad news from the DC court of appeals. We had asked for a stay of what’s called the OTARD Rule. We had asked that 5G devices not be able to be put on people’s individual houses or garages, in the civilian population. While the DC court of appeals is considering the health guidelines that they have been using since the mid ’90s since which time everything has changed in the world of wireless. They didn’t grant the stay but within at least a couple months we’re expecting to get a decision about the health guidelines for the 1990s which could have a huge impact on OTARD. We’re hard at work appealing a decision from the New York City federal district court that upheld New York City’s use of polymerase chain reaction tests for children as a condition of schooling, PCR testing. And we take the position that because PCR tests are emergency use authorization just like the vaccines that Rutgers is proposing that it violates federal law to force people to take those. And the judge says, “Well, the kids are still able to participate in remote learning. It’s not really harming the children if they can’t come to school.” And we say, “You gotta be kidding.” You know, separate but equal did not fly with African-Americans. And it does not fly for people who won’t take a PCR test. These are, this is a medical experiment. There’s no certainty that this thing is actually, you know, testing, it doesn’t test for infection. There’s no certainty that it actually is a good indicator of infection and it’s invasive and it’s experimental and nobody can be subjected without their free voluntary consent to being a part of a medical experiment. We’re doing a lot on the advocacy front, you know, as you pointed out this new institution in the UK called the Center for Countering Digital Hate, is actually a hate group. And they have created what they call the disinformation dozen, which includes our founder, Bobby Kennedy and others. And so we’re absolutely gonna be countering that. And we’re looking at, you know, a lot of different opportunities. Yeah, one thing you gotta say is we in the movement for vaccine choice and safety have never had the kind of opportunities that we have now because the whole world is talking about our issue, Polly. And so even though it is a scary time in many ways we have never had the opportunities that we have today to change the whole narrative and to change the dialogue. So we’re doing everything we can to take advantage of those opportunities. And we appreciate all the support that people give us.

– Yes, and then just to say, Children’s Health Defense do deal with different issues outside of vaccines, environment and glyphosate and even baby food. I’ve seen articles and also-

– Yes, we’re definitely, we’re doing baby crude, but let’s be real. I mean, we are doing a lot right now that relates to COVID because COVID has just so overshadowed everything else. So the Facebook case is related to COVID but we’re still bringing cases that came out of the measles epidemic in 2019 for religious and medical exemptions those are crucial. What’s happening in New York. We’re protecting the doctors who’ve been, we’re trying to protect the doctors who’ve been, who are fighting for their licenses, who are being attacked because they did issue medical exemptions. But we do have other cases going on related to other things like glyphosate and baby food. We’re looking at issues around fluoride. We’re looking at use of peg is in vaccines but peg is also being used polyethylene glycol and try ethylene glycol. Very toxic substance is being used as a disinfectant now in schools and in other public places. And so we’re looking at a number of different issues that we think affect health, but Polly, I think you and I can both agree that the idea that our children might be compelled to be vaccinated to be in school or in other programs with these experimental COVID vaccines is, you know, it’s an issue at the forefront for us.

– I agree, and so everybody who’s feeling a little down or feeling under pressure and thinking they’re gonna lose their jobs and can’t go into a local store to get food without a vaccine, stand firm, please. Join Children’s Health Defense, because we are a family fighting for this issue together. This is how we’re gonna win. And spoiler alert, we do win.

– We will win.

– Yeah.

– We’re gonna win. It’s not gonna be easy and we need you, we need everybody. But truth is on our side. I mean, these products can kill you. They’re experimental. You can’t be forced to take an experimental product that can kill you. It’s really pretty simple. And if you stand in that truth, people will listen to you and they will come to your side because it affects them as much as it affects you and people talk. People are dying from these vaccines. They’re being injured from them. COVID is not a nice, you know, disease. It’s bad, but there are treatments and not everybody’s gonna get it. Most people are gonna be asymptomatic. They’re gonna get immunity and they’re not gonna be sick. And some people are gonna be sick and there are really good treatments now that have been developed over the last year and found out.

– Correct, I agree with that. And so people, again, just so don’t settle. Remember, we’re gonna get through this fight. It’s gonna maybe gonna get a bit tough and a bit dark but we will get through it because there are way more of us than I think all of us realize, there’s a lot of us out there. So pray big. It’s so important you pray. I cannot tell you enough how important that is. Pray big. Remember how much you’re loved by us all. And we will be back next week with the show that appears to be getting longer and longer. It was supposed to be 30 minutes.

– I agree, but there’s a lot of important news. And so thank you for paying attention and staying with us.

– Yeah, and hopefully we’ll be back. Oh, just on one other issue. If you’re having trouble finding our shows we are going to make sure that it’s easier for you to find them. They will always be on The Defender and Peeps TV live.

– It’s gonna be up on Wednesday with the link. So we’re going to do better on that. We were now making a new commitment that it’s gonna be up on Wednesday with the links in the video.

– Edited, and also don’t forget if you do have a Roku, everything, everything all the videos everything banned is on Peeps TV, Bobby Kennedy’s Truth. You will be able to get it there but you will be able to get it on The Defender which is a lot easier for you. So sign up peeps and stay part of the family. You’re loved, pray big, and we’re up for this week and we’ll see you.

– Thanks, Polly.