‘TRUTH’ with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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Earlier this week, Polly Tommey and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. kicked off the new CHD Channel on Peeps TV with a lively discussion on a wide range of relevant topics in the health freedom movement. RFK Jr. shed light on conflict of interest in the development of vaccines, early red flags in the Moderna coronavirus vaccine trials, the new “Vaccine Czar”, pathogenic priming and much more.

Transcript:

Polly Tommey:

Hi, Bobby. This worked, how wonderful. Good to see you.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

Are they actually letting you on?

Polly Tommey:

For now. For now, we’re good. I have so many questions to you from the peeps, but I know your time is limited, so I’m going to just ask you a few. And I’m going to get to how you’re doing in the lockdown at the end, because I know everybody wants to know how you are. But to start with, the peeps wants to know about Trump’s new COVID-19 Czar that holds $10 million in vaccine company stock options, and we wondered if you could talk to us about that. Many peeps concerned about this, not sure what Trump is doing. And we needed a breakdown from you, if that was possible?

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

Well, this is the new vaccine Czar, whose name is Mouncef Slaoui. And he was a Glaxo official, but he was most significantly, he was, until his appointment by President Trump to run Warp Speed, COVID vaccine development project, he was on the board of Moderna, which is the flagship vaccine, as the mRNA vaccine was the one that Tony Fauci championed. Fauci his arranged for them to get $500 million in free federal money, so this is just a huge welfare program for the pharmaceutical industry. And Bill Gates is one of the investors as well. And this was the vaccine, this vaccine is critical, Polly, because this is the only chance that anybody has for getting the vaccine ready January, which is the Warp Speed timeline.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

You can’t do that with a regular vaccine that goes through the kind of production. When they want to make a regular vaccine, a traditional vaccine, they have to grow the vaccine on a series of animal substrates. That’s very expensive, it’s cumbersome, it takes a lot of space and it takes a lot of time. You have to grow it usually on a pangolin, and then on tissue and virile monkey tissue, and then dog tissue, and ultimately, usually on human tissue, on the baby, on fetus issue.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

That is a very time-consuming enterprise, and they wanted to take a shortcut with this theoretical methodology for developing a new generation of vaccines, which are vaccines that are based upon altering our genetic system, the DNA and the RNA in our system, and tricking a cell, RNA in each of our cells to develop the antibodies on their own. So actually, to turn your body into a factory, as Bill Gates says, to create vaccines. And it’s a shortcut. You can do with theoretically, on a much shorter timeline than you could do a normal vaccine. And so, the theoretical construct, the magical thinking that allows them to think that they can get a vaccine that is safe, effective vaccine out by January, is based upon the success of this vaccine.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

Oh, and that’s the Moderna company that Slaoui was one of the principles of. And he had to resign that company, but as you pointed out, he retained $10 million in stock options for that product. So if that product is successful, he’s going to make a lot of, lot of money. And the bad news for that company occurred yesterday, because the clinical trials, the first release of the clinical trials came out.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

As most people remember who’ve been following this, Tony Fauci decided to hopscotch animal studies, which seemed to be a very risky bet because coronavirus vaccines have caused a lot of problems in the past. People who get the vaccines actually get sicker and they die. And so, you want to know when that happens in an animal, whether there’s this phenomenon called pathogenic priming, where the vaccine, rather than make you resist the disease, actually primes your body to get much sicker. And the kids who have been given these vaccines before have died, ferrets have died, and they’ve never been successful in creating a vaccine that does not cause pathogenic priming.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

The clinical trials came out yesterday, and there’s some really bad news in the clinical trials. The vaccine was given to 45 volunteers in Seattle. And you have to remember this, Polly, those volunteers were all people who were super, super healthy. And it was distributed to three different groups: the first group of 15 got the low-dose, the second group got a medium dose, and the third group got a high dose. And here’s where the really bad signal came in, is that the high-dose group of the 15 volunteers who got the guinea pigs, human guinea pigs, who got that high dose, three of them got seriously ill, so serious adverse events. And under FDA’s rubric, what that means is, they got so sick that they required medical intervention or hospitalization.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

And that is bad news, because that’s 20% of the people who got that vaccine, these very, very healthy cohorts. There were no people in that group who looked like American outlooks. There was no people with diabetes, no people with rheumatoid arthritis, no people with autoimmune diseases or neurodevelopmental diseases, or with alcohol problems or smokers, or all of those people with comorbidities or chronic disease, which now effect 54% of Americans, were excluded. So this did not… This looks like a group of… this looks like they tested it on the Avengers, our really super-healthy group of people. And 20% of those people became severely ill. What that means is, if you extrapolate out to the population that Bill Gates is targeting, which is 7.5 billion people, you would make one-fifth of them, about 1.5 billion people, seriously ill, probably much more ill than these people got, because these people were very, very healthy individuals. And you’d be giving it to people all over the world, people who live in poverty, people who have comorbidities.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

What’s interesting, Polly, is that the way that Moderna announced the clinical trials was all sunny and unicorns and rainbows. They said this was a great success, it’s promising results, but it wasn’t; it was a catastrophe. If this were any other medicine, it would be DOA at this point, they wouldn’t even go on to the next stage. It’s dead on arrival. Not only that, but because they put so much bets on it, and because they believe that they have friends in a high places, they now have the Czar, who was on their board until two weeks ago, and Bill Gates, who, this is his baby, and Tony Fauci, and this is his pet project, they cannot walk away from this vaccine. It would look so bad, but it’s really embarrassing that they have to hold onto it.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

Now, the curious thing about this, Polly, is watching what happens at the press and how they handled this, because the company released a very limited amount of information. They said in their press release, they did something that I believe they violated securities laws, because the way that they presented this to the public and their investing community, was that this was a huge success, but if you actually… And that’s the only thing that the press read. All five networks this morning were saying, were presenting this as a huge triumph.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

And what we put it out, we put it out our analysis of it, what we did. I put it on Instagram and we put it on Children’s Health Events, because we read, looked between the lines, and they put some very, very revealing things in this a press release. They told us very little. They found out that only eight of the people so far, out of that 45 people, have ever tested positive for the antibodies. We don’t know whether that’s because they haven’t tested everybody or whether that was it. And if that’s it, then this is just a dead failure. The most important thing is they showed us that 20% of the high-dose group, and one out of the 15 of the low-dose group, got serious adverse events, and so that means this thing is off the table.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

The third thing, and probably most concerning to everybody, is that they revealed that the antibody, the binding antibody production was off the charts. And the binding antibodies, these are the antibodies… There’s two kinds of antibodies: the ones that you want, which are neutralizing antibodies, and then there are the binding antibodies. So the binding antibodies are the ones that Paul Offit says, the binding antibodies can kill people. Those are the ones that set the stage for pathogenic priming. What Paul Offit says it that…

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

And as you know, Paul Offit it is the guru of vaccine knowledge. He’s the guy who is the spokesperson for the vaccine industry. He is your biggest critic, my biggest critic. And he himself has said, will be a catastrophe if this vaccine, if any of these experimental vaccines produce more binding antibodies than neutralizing antibodies, and it appears that that is exactly what’s happening here. It says that the amount of binding antibodies that were produced are greater than you would expect from somebody who is convalescing from a COVID entry, from a COVID disease. So that means, that appears to mean, if you believe Paul Offit, that this is a very, very perilous vaccine and that a real danger is going to come. And these individuals who they have inoculated are actually challenged with exposure to the real COVID disease, because that’s when you start seeing the mortalities.

Polly Tommey:

People are nervous. They’re asking now, some of the people are coming up on your feed are asking, why is Trump, the President of America, standing next to the Fauci? Allowing these people that we know are corrupt, I can say that, why is this happening? Is this a very clever game? People are living in fear because our president is standing next to these people. Our president has chosen somebody that was a former pharma executive, who still has stocks in Moderna. What is going on here? What’s your opinion on this? And can you maybe alleviate some of the fear that the people are living in?

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

I really don’t know. I can only speculate, like other people are speculating. We’ve had no contact with the Trump administration since they pulled the plug on the Vaccine Safety Commission, which was in March of 2017. The Vaccine Safety Commission was announced in January. I met with the President and then between January and March, we had a series of very, very encouraging meetings, including with Tony Fauci, with Francis Collins, with FDA. And then as the … After the Vaccine Safety Commission was announced, Pfizer made a million-dollar donation to the President’s Inauguration. The hand-picked candidate as the Head of FDA, Scott Gottlieb, was a vaccine lobbyist and worked for Pfizer and Glaxo. And he immediately killed the Vaccine Safety Commission and announced that FDA was going to go to war against homeopathy and against vitamins and the nutrients. And they’ve now cracked down on anything that challenges the pharmaceutical paradigm. Anybody who competes with vaccines is now under attack.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

What we’re seeking from FDA today is that they’re really going after anybody. They’re a completely captured agency by and for vaccine companies. And they’re going after anybody who competes with that model. Well, I cannot tell you what the President is thinking. We’ve seen mixed messages from the President. He says things that give people hope, but then he does things that make people think, “Well, he’s part of the problem.” And I cannot really shed any light.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

People now asking, the information that you’ve given, is this on Children’s Health Defense, and how can they get involved? What can they do? They need to know how they can squash these bills, like the HR666. What can they do to reactively stop this? Because nobody wants to be force mandated with vaccines.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

Well, you know what? There’s a couple of things that people should be doing. One is, I would say this, and it’s going to sound like a plug and self-interest. They need to join the organized resistance, which means joining Children’s Health Defense, supporting what you do, Polly, with vacs too, supporting Dell, supporting Rashid Buttar and Sherri Tenpenny, the people who are stalwarts, who are leading this movement. We need to be organized. There’s a lot of people, who many years have felt uneasy about the power that the pharmaceutical industry has, the corruption of our public officials, the lack of [inaudible 00:15:45] science. And particularly having to do with a product that is mandatory, that is forcefully given to 76 million American children who are healthy kids, who have zero risk for these infectious diseases, at a zero liability. And so people are troubled by that, but we aren’t really going to organize our resistance.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

And now we see them coming for us. We see this kind of authoritarian mandates coming down, the surveillance state, which is closing in on us. And we need to organize resistance. We need to create institutions that are big enough sustainably, every day have people who are working for us who are getting paid, to think of ways to erode, to subvert, to bring down the pharmaceutical powerhouse. And you need to build institutions. It’s the way. That’s the only way that social movements like ours ever work. That’s just one thing. Join Children’s Health Defense. Join whatever Polly does. Join Dell, Sherri Tenpenny, and Rashid. The other thing that I say to people, you should be an activist. All the people who are awake on this issue, a lot of them are intimidated for many years.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

We all know what happens. If you go out in the world and start talking to people about this issue, you get shut down, you become a pariah. You’re told by your doctor, “We don’t want you at our practice anymore.” You’re punished, you’re bullied or gas-lighted. And people are scared, so they keep quiet. What we’re seeing now is that because people are paying attention during this COVID crisis, and there’s a lot of people who are quarantined or angry or don’t know what’s happening and are beginning to question or presumptions for the first time. And our movement has gone from about 2%, 2 years ago to about 20% of people today will identify themselves as vaccine-hesitant. Nature, the magazine is very hostile to us. It’s part of the pharmaceutical industry. Published an article two days ago that said that the undecided are breaking almost unanimously for our side.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

In other words, it’s very, very hard for the pharmaceutical industry to recruit undecided. And when the undecided make a decision about what side to end up on, they almost always end up on our side. People defect on the pharmaceutical side to us. Our side almost never defects to the pharmaceutical side because once you’re awake, once you’re educated, once you’re reading the science, the real science, there’s no way that you’re going to go back to that vaccine paradigm. You’re always going to have the questions. And so what we need to do is we need to start recruiting. And what that means is you go to

… if you see a mother who is pregnant, hand her one of our cards. We have cards that we’ve printed up that tell the list of the ingredients of vaccines, tell the list of adverse events that are listed on the manufacturer’s inserts. These are all science-based education.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

We list, on the questions that you should be asking, we show how vaccines are never safety tested against a placebo. Or Stanley Plotkin himself, the guru of vaccines has said, “If you do not test that product against a placebo, it is not science. It is marketing. And that’s why vaccines are never tested against placebos. And we need to demand robust science. We need to demand regulators that are free from conflict, corrupting conflicts of interest with the industry. And individuals now, it is time to be part of this army. Go out. If you see a woman with a young child, hand her one of the cards and say, “Look into this. Start asking questions, “Are you educating yourself? Do not trust the medical establishment with your health or your child’s health. You need to do the research yourself because the doctors are not doing the research. When Dr. Swaminathan, who’s the Chief Medical Officer for the World Health Organization, she gave her secret talk to the World Health Organization a couple of weeks ago.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

She said, “Doctors do not know anything about vaccines.” And their entire medical school career, half a day studying vaccines. And they’re told, “Here’s where you get the shot. Here’s why you have to do it.” And that’s it. Look at the safety studies. They’re told that adverse events don’t exist. So people need to do their own research. If you’re a mother, you ask questions. When you buy your stroller, you say, “Is this the best stroller? Will it protect my kids?” When you buy your car seat, you’re making sure it’s the best one. When you buy them food, you’re saying, “Are they pesticide-free? Are they free from plastics? Are they free from contaminants? Are they free from glyphosate?” And yet, the one intervention that is going to affect your child more than any, a vaccine that is advertised as permanently altering that child’s god-given immune system forever. That’s how they sell themselves. And you’re not asking questions about that? You need to ask those questions.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

And your doctor, if he won’t answer the questions, if he doesn’t know the answer, if he won’t educate himself, then it might be better not to be at that doctor.

Polly Tommey:

And it’s important, I think, that this point to mention to everybody, they call us crazy anti-vaxxers. I vaccinated all three of my children. I had complete faith. And I’m pretty sure your family is vaccinated as well. So I think it’s … I would wish I was an anti-vaxxer because then my children wouldn’t be injured.

But I really want to make the statement that all of the people that I interview on the bus and many that you have met as well, we vaccinated our children. We did as we were told. We followed the rules and we have dire consequences of either death or brain injury beyond belief. So I think, I just want to make that statement that we are not … I don’t deserve the title of anti-vaxxer. I vaccinated my family. So, its-

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

Yeah. Hey, these people are dangerous. You don’t have to listen to them. They’re a category of quacks who hate vaccines. And everybody knows vaccines are good for you. So these people are dangerous, people who are not credible and you shouldn’t listen to them. And that’s a way of shutting us up, of silencing us. That’s what they need to do because they cannot win this debate on merit. They have to treat this as a religion, like an orthodoxy. Anybody who questions it is dangerous. And you have to burn the witches. You have to burn the heretics. You cannot listen to them. You cannot debate them. You cannot afford to hear common sense arguments from them. You have to shut them up.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

Now, they call me anti-vax. I’ve said, since 2005, for 15 years since I got into this issue, “I am not anti- vaccine. I vaccinated all six of my kids, got all of their vaccines.” I’ve been trying for almost 40 years, to get mercury out of fish. Nobody calls me anti-fish. I want to get pesticides out of food. Nobody calls me anti-food. I want to get … if somebody comes up with a safe vaccine, I want safe vaccines. If somebody comes up with a vaccine that actually does what they promise it will do, which is to make you healthier and make you longer to live, then I’d be for it. But I wouldn’t be for anybody mandating them. There’s no medical product, no matter what it’s promised, no matter what it’s competence, it should not be mandated. People have a choice. This is law that every [inaudible 00:24:41], that they philosophically, that they morally do not approve of. Government does not have that right.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

But if somebody can make a vaccine that does all the things they say vaccines do, then I’m all for it. But so far, there’s no proof that any of the vaccines are actually causing or actually averting more problems than they’re causing. And this is what I’ve said, “Show me a study. Show me any study that shows that vaccinated kids are healthier than unvaccinated kids.” And that has ever been done. And all the studies I’ve posted on my Instagram, over 50 studies that we’ve found on PubMed, 50 studies done by independent scientists, and published in prestigious journals. And every one of them that compares vaccinated populations to unvaccinated populations says the same thing. That the populations that are vaccinated are worse off. They have higher diabetes. They have higher autism. They have higher arthritis. They have higher autoimmune diseases. They have higher rates of ADD, ADHD, speech delay, tics, Tourrets Syndrome, ASD, SIDS, and all of these other … and the allergic diseases. Clearly, vaccines cause food allergies.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

I grew up, I had 11 brothers and sisters. I had 17 cousins on both sides of the family. I didn’t know anybody with a food allergy. How come my kids all have food allergies? We know why and I am in a unique position to know why, because I was one of the founders of food allergy initiative, which is the largest patient advocacy group for people with food allergies in the world. We’ve raised hundreds of millions of dollars to study food allergies. We’ve studied food allergies, not how they happen, but how to treat them and how to cure them. Here’s what I found out. Doctors that we pay, that we give grants to, to study the food allergies they actually have to give food allergies to rats, and then they figure out treatments for them.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

The way that they give a food allergy to a rat is very formulaic. They take the [aluminum regimen 00:00:59], and it’s in the hepatitis B vaccine that is in the Gardasil vaccine and they add a food protein and then they inject it. If it’s a lactose protein, no protein, that child will now have a milk allergy. If it’s a peanut protein, that child will now have, or that rat, will now have a peanut allergy. If it is a casein protein or a latex protein, that child will have allergy to latex rubber right away. There are peanut oil excipients and other excipients in the vaccines that have those proteins in them. There are all kinds of materials and vaccines that have meat proteins and no proteins and the peanut proteins and other proteins. That’s why we have a generation of kids born after 1989. Suddenly we have this explosion in allergies.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

You’ll also know is that the protein does not have to be contained in that syringe. If it’s in the ambient environment at the time that you get that aluminum injection, you now have a lifetime … if there’s a Timothy Weed outbreak at the time that you will have an aluminum injection, you now could have a lifetime allergy to Timothy Weed. And that’s why children [inaudible 00:28:36] the children who have been vaccinated have 30 times the level of the incidents of allergic rhinitis as children who are un- vaccinated. All we’ve been saying, I think you’ve been saying, and I’ve been saying, is show us a study that shows that the unvaccinated kids are healthier. If somebody shows me those studies, that unvaccinated kids are healthier, I will post it on my website and I’ll go back to protecting rivers full-time, but I don’t believe that those studies can be done.

Polly Tommey:

And these allergies are life-threatening. We speak to parents whose every moment is the worry of what their child is going to eat with the peanuts. Literally life-threatening, people, children dying from these.

And we’re not, as you say, seeing these in the clean unvaccinated kids, including the vitamin K. I have to put that out there. That is also a problem. Now the peaks want to know-

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

Let me just say one thing, comment to that is that one of my children had 29 separate emergency room visits by the time he was two years old. That’s what a peanut allergy does. And driving a child to the hospital when they’re having an anaphylaxis attack, let me tell you something. There’s nothing, you know, there are worse things for a parent, having a child with severe autism is worse. That’s the most frightened that I have ever been in my life. Those trips to Mount Kisco Hospital of Westchester County emergency room time after time with my son gasping for air.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

I remember one time my child said to me … he saw I terrified I was, and he said, “Dad, don’t worry. Don’t worry. I don’t want you to worry.” And it’s heartbreaking. To think that that child would have been completely healthy, the chances are, were it not for receiving that aluminum vaccine. And you think the doctor who gave him that vaccine, the pediatrician who was our beloved pediatrician, has any consciousness that those allergies that she is now seeing in her practice are coming from the vaccines that she gave to these kids when they’re babies? This is what the science says, not me saying it. Study after study, after study, that shows it’s not just theoretical. This is what scientists use to create food allergies in animals.

Polly Tommey:

It’s barbaric. So well, lots of questions are coming in for you. Lots of hearts and lots of thank yous, and we will go back to these questions and maybe go out live again and answer some of them, but for now can we talk about this whole lock down isolation situation? Because the parents are reporting to me in the community of autism and vaccine injury to a great degree that they’re at breaking point, if not broken. To have an autistic child, for example, and not be able to go on your daily routine, not having any money because the parents can’t work. What is your situation on what has happened, this whole lock down situation? And on top of that, how are you doing in lockdown?

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

I’m doing fine now. I actually, I hate to say this, but I have to say I’m ready. What’s happening nationally, which makes me infuriated. And I’ll tell you why. It’s not because of the lockdown itself, it’s because of the failure to follow science and the failure to do risk assessments and actually make policies that make common sense. So I have to separate that, watching what’s happening to my country, my world. All these people are suffering so terribly. All of the businesses that are failing, some of them are generational. All that wealth is just leaving.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

My own situation, which is a wonderful situation because I’m locked in the house eating every meal with me, talking, making me laugh. We’ve been pretty good because the place, I live in Los Angeles, I’m able to go hiking every day. We go out hiking with the dogs and I spend my time with these wonderful kids who are constantly criticizing and finding qual but in a very, very funny way. So all I do is just laugh all the time and it’s been great.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

Now, let me explain to you the problem I have with what’s happening. I don’t have any problem with quarantine. If you were told why, if we knew there was an adequate risk assessment of the KRAS, and the people, the government is ordering it, that’s imposing this quarantine on us as a risk assessment. If you look at CNN, they say we got to follow the science and anybody who disagrees with it, science is not allowed on TV. You’re not allowed to debate it. What they mean by listening to the science is listening to Tony Fauci and Bill Gates, and Bill Gates and Tony are out here saying you got to stay inside until you got to act the same. And that’s not what they originally told us. Originally told us we were going to just stay locked down until they flatten the curve. In order to avoid early surge that would overwhelm our medical system in a hospital is we’re going to allow the hospitals to gear up.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

You got the beds. You got the ventilators. You got the testing kits to develop protocols, to deck adequate therapeutics. And then we were going to release people back into society, back into our jobs while isolating vulnerable populations, people with comorbidities, people with chronic disease and seniors, keep them isolated and protect them. Let the rest of us get the illness. 99% of the people there is either no effect or minor effect. We want to get herd immunity because then we can protect the vulnerable populations. And that was what they originally presented, but we’ve had a mission degree where Gates has come in and of course, networks have us all locked in here. CNN wants us all locked in. Anderson Cooper’s getting $12 million a year, and what does he care? He’s saying we’re all in this together, but we’re not all in this together.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

He’s still getting paid. Most Americans from up getting paid anymore. And he’s getting paid essentially by the pharmaceutical companies who are making all the money right now. So have him and Tony Fauci and Bill Gates [inaudible 00:36:03]. Tony Fauci is a urologist and immunologist. He has the competence, probably, to tell us a number of different scenarios, model for us, how many people are going to get sick, how many areas are going to get it and die from the COVID and fast the disease is going to spread. That’s what he’s trying to do and he may be good at it.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

The problem is he has no confidence to tell us how many people are going to be killed by the quarantine. Quarantine kills people too. That’s what I want. I want that risk assessment. I think we’re entitled to that. There were a lot of studies on the early eighties, and we had big downsizing in this country and other countries, there were a lot of economists who specialized in telling us what the impacts of unemployment were on Americans. And the leading study was a study that was published in 1982 in a series of articles and then a book, but it was authoritative and it’s quoted everywhere.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

That study says that, and this is generally accepted, every additional point in unemployment causes 37,000 deaths. If you multiply that times 30 unemployment points, which is what we’re now looking at according to the census among economists, you’re talking about 1.1 million people dead from unemployment. And what does that mean of those 37,000? First of all, that is a much larger number today because our population was a third smaller in 82. About 9,000 of those people die from heart attacks that are stress-related. About 900 die from suicide. And then there are whole categories, anyhow, they’re smaller categories of death.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

In addition to that, in addition to the 37,000, you have 4,000 people who go to prison additional for every point of unemployment. You have 3,300 people who go to mental institutions. That’s just for unemployment. There are other factors out that are also imposing even greater costs on quarantine. For example, the disruption of food supply, the food supply chain to the supply chains for medicines. Those are going to cause us deaths. Isolation itself kills people. 96% of the people who died in Italy at home, not in hospitals, the consensus is that many of them died not from COVID, but from isolation. Not being able to access food, water, help, medical care. “I fell down in my house, nobody found me. I couldn’t reach the phone, those kinds of things. This week due to is the British health service, issued a study that was stunning. It showed that in senior homes and elderly homes in Britain, England and Wales. That during the four weeks of. April and two weeks of May, there were 30,000, it’s the height of pandemic in the British Isles were 30,000 accessed as among the elderly, in elderly homes, elderly communities. But only 10,000 of those people had COVID. 20,000 [inaudible 00:39:53] isolation the inability to access health care from not going to the doctor or not going to hospitals because of the quarantine. So two times the number of people who died from COVID, died from the quarantine.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

In addition was last week, the British [inaudible 00:01:18] hospital and Johns Hopkins published a joint study that predicted three month quarantine will add 6.3 million additional tuberculosis cases because of the lack of the treatment protocols, and kill 1.3 million people. so you’re only talking just from that one disease. The same amount of people who are predicted to die, maybe locally from COVID. And then we have to look at a long-term impacts on what are the impacts on debts. Mortalities and morbidities from running up at $4 trillion debt form eradicating the middle class in our country. From closing down businesses, from having people expelled from their homes. I’ve lived through periods of time in American history when states were trying to pay back these huge debts, that we’re now incurring, like we’ve never seen before. What they do they get rid of daycare. They get rid of assistance to women, mothers, and infant children, which prevent starving for this country. They cut back on Medicaid, Medicare, social security on welfare, on food stamps, on school lunches, on sports for our children, on education. On all the things that create quality of life and keep people alive.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

What are the costs of quarantine, of those costs? And I’m not saying, it’s going to be better or worse. So I’m saying we ought to know that and we ought to be able to debate it. And we ought to be able to go to [inaudible 00:42:10] the scientists that you and I see. Who are credential scientists, some of them Nobel Prize winners. And others who are saying who are coming on YouTube and then are de-platformed.

They’re saying things, they challenge the orthodoxy. And some of them are saying things like you actually are going to have more COVID cases from locking people up. That may or may not be true, but I want to know that… I want to hear that argument. I have a right to hear that argument. Why are those people being shut down? I don’t know if it’s true or not.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

There are people that say that the virus came out of the Wuhan lab. I’m at Tony Fauci was paying for the studies that created the virus. People who say that are jumping to conclusions. Those dots have not been connected. And I don’t like it when people say that. But I do like when people say, it may have happened, and we ought to talk about it. We ought to investigate it. We shouldn’t call people who say it may have happened, conspiracy theorists. We ought to be listening to them, and Anderson Cooper ought to be on TV saying, why aren’t we looking into this? Shouldn’t the white house be looking into this? Shouldn’t the intelligence community be looking into this? Because we don’t want… If Tony Fauci caused the pandemic, you shouldn’t be the one who is instructing us on how to solve it.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

You ought to be having an open debate on those questions and not have people have reasonable comments as criticisms of the current policies to be completely excluded from the public square. I mean, democracy relies on the free flow of information and that’s, what’s not happening. We’re having this surveillance state and the front line of our surveillance state, which by the way, the outcome of a surveillance is the creation of a plutocracy. A militarized aristocracy is making war on its people and stripping us of our wealth. And we’re already seeing that billionaires are getting richer. It’s estimated Jeff Bezos because of this COVID is going to be a trillionaire. The wealth of these multi-billionaires is expanding day by day as the rest of us become impoverished. Ultimately that’s the end game, strip the poor, destroy the middle class, strip them of their wealth and transfer it to the wealthy. And have this militarized surveillance state run by a plutocracy, are making war on the people of our country. The front line of that is not allowing that debate to occur because if you don’t have that debate, this is our destiny.

Polly Tommey:

And you have, you have tried to debate people, you and [inaudible 00:45:27] , many, many others have tried, and they’ve either not shown up or they’d shut you down. So it’s not some [inaudible 00:45:32] of trying. And you’re doing there’s many, many more questions. We are actually running out of time because Instagram will just cut us off after a certain amount of time. But that we do need to get back to these questions. So the people, putting the questions up, we will look through them and we will get back on them. People wanting to talk to you about Fauci and Gates, wanting to get more into your thoughts behind them, what they’re doing. Everybody wants to know more about how you and your family are doing.

Polly Tommey:

So lots of questions but I think for now, the people should go to Children’s Health Defense. And this is why, because the censorship is rife. If you sign up and I know it’s old fashioned, but you sign up for the email list, we will always be able to stay in contact with each other, right? And you’re every day, putting out your team are amazing. They’re extremely well-qualified lawyers and unbelievable [crosstalk 00:00:46:23].

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

We have scientists, we have medical doctors, we have nurses. We have some of the best scientists in America on our staff, and the world. We have Nobel Prize winners on our advisory committee. We are science-based. What Children’s Health Defense tries to do is the source of every statement that we make and to weaponize information for our armies that showed people, here’s what you can say, and suggesting sometime here’s the best way, the most precise way to say it. We’re trying to educate you all and using the most competent sources. And our big problem is censorship, if we didn’t have censorship, we would have won this issue. Polly, they don’t want you talking, they’ve de-platformed you in every way they can. I didn’t even want you to do these interviews because you’re so radio active.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

They don’t want you because, they hate Polly Tommy, do you want me to tell you why they hate Polly Tommey? Because, Polly is the voice of the mothers and it can shut down scientists. It can take Andrew Wakefield and disgrace and then yank his license. It can take the [inaudible 00:47:41] and pull their licenses and, keep them from getting grants and shut them down. And can discredit me and say that I’m just nutcase or Greg or whatever they want to say. But they can’t say that to the mothers. If you’re a mother and you saw your child, your perfectly healthy child, you gave that child a vaccine and then watched that [inaudible 00:48:07] disappear, there’s nothing they can say to that. And they don’t want you to speak. So they have to silence these women. And there’s a million moms in this country alone, who say, my baby was healthy until I gave him a vaccine.

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

And then I lost him. The lights went out and that story, they cannot afford to let that story got out. So it’s a misogynistic movement. Fauci’s movement and Gates’ movement it starts with saying, we are going to dismiss. We’re supposed to be the products of the MeToo movement, we’re supposed to be listening to women. And we were supposed to be standing up to the bullies. But we have to start its orthodoxy, our religion. By saying you cannot listen to these moms, we are going to shut down the stories of a million moms and shut our ears. And saying those mothers are just alluded. They were misled by this charming British [inaudible 00:49:15] golly, Andrew Wakefield. And he took them off of a cliff and misled and diluted them and we need to bring them back in the fold. And we’re not going to listen to what they say because we know, those mother’s know what happened to their children. And Polly is their voice. She is their bull horn. And so more than any of us, they need to shut down Polly Tommey. So thank you Polly for everything you’re doing.

Polly Tommey:

I’m amazed [crosstalk 00:10:45].

Robert F Kennedy Jr.:

Just because I know you.

Polly Tommey:

Well, we’ll come back and do this again if we’re allowed. Because we have many, many more questions that people would love to ask you. So, and thank you for standing up for our children. Seriously, they don’t have a voice and we really, really appreciate you. Getting a lot of love and a lot of support people thanking you so much for what you do in Children’s Health Defense. So we will come back. We will do this again. And if they take us down, we’ll just set another platform up. That’s what we do. Thank you so much.